Is it wrong to steal music u have already bought?

[Djtom420]

i think it's the old school heads who are getting so worked up over this, they don't seem to have a full grasp on how the internet works.

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Sums it up perfectly. its just like how tape decks were going to ruin the record industry back the 80s. didn't happen then and MP3s aren't going to do it now.

[Jester]

On psyshop.com some new CD releases also come with a compact stick with a HQ mp3 version of the album, lots of extras like wallpapers, art etc. Very cool.

[Jester]

Also .. Discussion point via ARSTECHNICA

Study: P2P users buy more music; apathy, not piracy, the problem
By Ken Fisher | Last updated March 20, 2006 12:33 PM

When the movie or music industry commissions a study, it's usually to serve either a public relations purpose or lobbying need (or both). Sometimes, however, the study produces results that fall short of meeting the needs of the industry. That is what looks to have happened with a recent study commissioned by the Canadian branch of the RIAA, the Canadian Record Industry Association. While the study still shows that piracy is indeed a problem for the industry, it also shows that P2P users buy more music than is typically conceded; when people aren't buying music, P2P isn't the primary cause; and among those who use P2P, legitimate methods of obtaining music still dominate.
P2P users buy music

Three out of four P2P users admitted to purchasing music after downloading it online, with 21 percent of P2P users saying that they have bought tracks they have also downloaded on more than 10 occasions. 25 percent admitted to purchasing previously-downloaded tracks only once or twice, while an additional 27 percent claimed to have done it less than 10 times, but more than twice. The end result is clear: people are buying music after downloading it on P2P, meaning that the industry has failed to recognize the marketing-like effects of P2P. Just as important, this should caution the industry against assessing each and every download to a "loss" to piracy, since the statistics clearly show that those engaging in P2P do buy music in not-insignificant numbers.
The industry's biggest cause of lost sales: apathy

But what of declining album sales? Of those polled, those claiming to have purchased less music over time have cited myriad reasons for doing so. Apathy is the major culprit, with 14 percent citing no interest, 9 percent saying that their music collections are sufficient already, 7 percent saying that the radio is enough, and another 4 percent citing no reason. Thus, more than a third (34 percent) of the respondents were just not that interested. That number can be inflated when we consider that 13 percent said that they had no time to listen to music, while another 6 percent cited changes in their own music preference. Where does P2P sit in this mix? Only 10 percent of those people buying less music say that they do so because they can get materials off of P2P networks. This number is smaller than the 16 percent who cited the cost of new music as the reason for their declining purchases.
Yarr Matey, what be on your computer?

And what of these pirates? Users who admit to downloading music from P2P services nonetheless have music collections primarily composed of music obtained legally, either via ripping CDs (36 percent of the average collection), buying songs online (20 percent), or obtaining them from artists' websites (7 percent). Music tracks obtained from P2P networks (33 percent) or family and friends (9 percent) were significantly higher, however. With the average number of music files per computer sitting at 500, this suggests that the average P2P downloader in the study had roughly 210 songs obtained from these unauthorized channels.

None of this suggests that P2P is entirely harmless, or that the music industry should embrace P2P like a long- lost friend. It does demonstrate, however, that the rhetoric from the industry doesn't match reality, at least in Canada. Michael Geist, who raised awareness of the study's existence, aptly noted the irony of having the CRIA provide evidence against itself; far from a doomsday scenario, the situation appears to be almost the opposite of what we've been told. Furthermore, Geist noted that it is the teenagers specifically who are leading the way in buying music. This runs contrary to the tale that kids these days don't bother buying anything they can pirate. Individuals aged 13-24 years bought roughly 11 CDs and DVDs in the last six months compared to only 4 or less for persons aged 55 and older. The hotter 25-34 demographic was actually outshone by the older 35-44 crowd, turning in 8.5 purchases compared to 9.7, respectively.

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[djfrogstar]

If you've ever smoked weed and made a tune, you have contributed to terrorism.

That was random and a great read.

[maxonemillionone]

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=B91wki_jQf0

[LanceBlaise]

I think it's just pretty dumb to expect fans to pay for an MP3 if they've bought the vinyl. If you buy a CD, you can burn it to your PC. So you're telling Vinyl fans that to have both, they should buy both? Ehh that just isn't going to work.

Not what I said. If you have the vinyl then you probably have the means to take that vinyl and create a digital copy for yourself. AGAIN, if you are downloading from torrents or from blog sites you are just indirectly contributing to the use of these illegal downloads!

[LanceBlaise]

at the movie theatre, you occupy a seat that could be used for a paying customer if you sneak in.

That is assuming that the movie theater would have completely sold out of tickets and someone were not able to pay to see the movie. If the movie has been out in the theaters and only 2 people were in that movie than you would not be taking away from someone that would have paid...

So sorry but you are wrong.

Sounds to me like you steal music on the internet... good luck with that.

The bottom line is you are stealing from the artist and the label. You can say all you want about how you want the mp3 version because you already bought the vinyl, if you want an mp3 version the legal way then either buy it, or buy the tools you need to make your own copy. Downloading it from a torrent site or rapidshare etc is stealing.

[Jester]

I agree with you Lance. Personally i've re-purchased albums in mp3 format even tho i already have the CD. Either because i'm a lazy cnut or have too much money and large genitals

[Djtom420]

Sounds to me like you steal music on the internet... good luck with that.

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So it seems that anyone who dissagrees with you "steals music on the interrnet".....

Nice to know.....

U know there are other uses for torrent besides stealing music, right? u do know that right?

if you are downloading from torrents or from blog sites you are just indirectly contributing to the use of these illegal downloads!.

And like someone said, if you smoke weed u support terrorism. Same argument, same retarded logic.

[Jester]

Is it wrong to steal music u have already bought?

There is no 'argument' here guys. It is wrong and ILLEGAL to steal music regardless of whether you already own a copy or not, its as simple as that, there is no justification. If you agree with the law or not it is the LAW. Apples are Apples, Theft is Theft, so lets just move on huh.