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    Yeah, the workflow thing makes sense. Why they put that in I'll never understand.

    When it comes to Auto Mode and Internal mode I'd just stick with Internal and use a command to change that clock as it comes. I move through all three modes myself in a set, which I'm starting to develop a workflow for with my MIDIFighter. Should be do-able.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    I got a feeling NI probably haven't thought about this particular workflow. Its not a massive deal really
    What is this 'particular workflow'. Im a bit confused as to what your trying to do.

    If you want to trigger 3 decks at once just make a Macro Key that Plays 3 decks on one key.

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    Karlos: He wants to be able to save a loop for only as long as the deck is loaded, even if he jumps to another active cue.
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    Ah gotcha. Yeah not possible because the loop is comprised of 2 floating loop points that are deleted when you beat/cue jump.

    He could use a hotkey macro to store the cue point when he creates a loop. This could be jumped to when he wants to after using his other stored hotcues if hes using the 'next/previous cue commands.
    He could then have hotkey macro that cancels the loop and deletes the cue. As it will be the last cue in the list it will just be a simple Cue Delete.

    Now just need to make the macros. Er... ill have look. Although ive just had a filling at the dentist so it could be the Meds making me assume this can be done !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlos Santos View Post
    What is this 'particular workflow'. Im a bit confused as to what your trying to do.

    If you want to trigger 3 decks at once just make a Macro Key that Plays 3 decks on one key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct View Post
    Karlos: He wants to be able to save a loop for only as long as the deck is loaded, even if he jumps to another active cue.
    That isn't the part I was referring to when I said about the work flow thing. The bit I am talking about is the fact I have to push the "in" button twice in order for it to register the auto 4 bar loop macro I have set up if I push a cue button. Say I push "in" while I am stationary at cue point 1, it will set up a 4 bar loop, then say I hit play too soon by mistake so have to hit play again in order to pause it, then hit cue point 1 again to take it back to that point, then if I hit "in" again to set up the 4 bar loop it won't do it unless I hit "in" again. I want it to work when I hit "in" ony once every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlos Santos View Post
    If you want to trigger 3 decks at once just make a Macro Key that Plays 3 decks on one key.
    I was waiting for someone to say that. That defeats the object! How am I supposed to know what 3 decks to set up to trigger? I might want to trigger deck A, C & D one time, then maybe deck B, C & D another time and so on. Also, the fact I have had other people say it can be done on their system, I shouldn't have to compromise. I should have the same possibilities as everyone else.

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    If you want one button macros then you need to use modifiers to do it. So you'd need to select the three decks you want and then press the fourth button to play them.

    In theory you can do this.

    Essentially each button would set a modifier value to a different amount. You can do it two different ways, I think. The quick, but more costly of modifiers way is to set each deck to have it's own modifier value. For example

    Deck A: M1
    Deck B: M2
    Deck C: M3
    Deck D: M4

    This way, you select each deck you want to play, so say Deck A/C/D. Now M1 is V1, M3V1 and M4V1 but M2 is still V0

    Then you have another button that reacts to this. So you have one macro key that plays Deck A only when M1 is V1, M2V2, M3V3 and M4V4 individually.

    You can set this to two controls also, so really you can say that when Deck A is selected, M1V1, when Deck B selected M1V2, when Deck A and B is selected M1V3, same for Decks C and D on M2, or you can get even more convoluted, so when Deck C is selected M1V4, when Deck A and C are selected M1V5, B and C M1V6, Deck ABC m1V7 but you run out of numbers to add D in. It might be easier to split it to two Modifiers. So A and B would be on M1 and C and D would be on M2. This make sense?

    As far as the loop controls, what are your loop commands set to? This could make a huge difference, cause some of the loop commands get kind of confusing. I can walk you through if I know what they already are
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    Quote Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct View Post
    If you want one button macros then you need to use modifiers to do it. So you'd need to select the three decks you want and then press the fourth button to play them.

    In theory you can do this.

    Essentially each button would set a modifier value to a different amount. You can do it two different ways, I think. The quick, but more costly of modifiers way is to set each deck to have it's own modifier value. For example

    Deck A: M1
    Deck B: M2
    Deck C: M3
    Deck D: M4

    This way, you select each deck you want to play, so say Deck A/C/D. Now M1 is V1, M3V1 and M4V1 but M2 is still V0

    Then you have another button that reacts to this. So you have one macro key that plays Deck A only when M1 is V1, M2V2, M3V3 and M4V4 individually.

    You can set this to two controls also, so really you can say that when Deck A is selected, M1V1, when Deck B selected M1V2, when Deck A and B is selected M1V3, same for Decks C and D on M2, or you can get even more convoluted, so when Deck C is selected M1V4, when Deck A and C are selected M1V5, B and C M1V6, Deck ABC m1V7 but you run out of numbers to add D in. It might be easier to split it to two Modifiers. So A and B would be on M1 and C and D would be on M2. This make sense?

    As far as the loop controls, what are your loop commands set to? This could make a huge difference, cause some of the loop commands get kind of confusing. I can walk you through if I know what they already are
    Mate what I'd like you to walk me through is all that modifier shit. To be honest I don't even know what a modifier is. If you can define what the modifiers do and how they work Im sure all that hoobajoob you just said would make sense to me. Im sure its in the manual but I can't be arsed to keep searching through it right now.
    As far as the loop commands go I've got Loop In on the same button as Set Loop, and loop value set to 4 beats.

    Thanks for your help brother.

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    I need to crash, but I am not going to write another Modifier explanation. There's one in the blog and TONS on the forums. Go through the FAQ.

    As for the loops I'll try to look at it tomorrow, when I don't have to be at work early the next day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    I was waiting for someone to say that. That defeats the object! How am I supposed to know what 3 decks to set up to trigger? I might want to trigger deck A, C & D one time, then maybe deck B, C & D another time and so on. Also, the fact I have had other people say it can be done on their system, I shouldn't have to compromise. I should have the same possibilities as everyone else.
    What..? If you were waiting for someone to tell you that why are you asking this question.
    What other way is there of starting 3 decks at one press?

    Who says you have to compromise? You have the same Traktor as anyone else.

    I dont understand how you think anyone else can trigger 3 decks but you cant? You have "got the same possibilities as everyone else". You sound like your complaining about something you havent got when actually you have.

    Modifiers are the answer. Read the manual and learn how to make them.
    Why you would want to trigger 3 decks at in one go i dont know?


    Your loop buttons are in conflict. The reason you are having to press loop twice is that you have 3 loop states applied to one button. Are they all set to "toggle". They need to be.
    You are confusing the hotkey buy appying IN and LOOP on one button. You dont need IN unless you have a separate OUT because LOOP (set4) creates an IN and and OUT.

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