Harmonic Mixing Question

[SirReal]

It's really hard to mix a long time completely harmonically without using key lock, you have to have a good ear and REALLY know your music. Many DJ's will use "drum breakdown" tracks to break up chunks of harmonic mixing, I know drums are tuned also but you don't notice that nearly as much as bass lines or synth chords.

[Tron Jeremy]

I recall reading in the MIK notes that you shouldn't shift the pitch more than 2 or 3% if you want to keep the maintain the key; on the other hand, a pitch shift of 6% will add (if pitched up) or subtract (if pitched down) 7 from your Camelot number.

[Tron Jeremy]

http://community.mixedinkey.com/Topic.aspx?ID=1767

[sfbeatz]

thanks for that tron, i knew i had read about the relationship between pitch percentage and key, i just forgot where.
In reference to the original post, as long as you use keylock in traktor or whatever you use, you can increase the tempo as much as you want, and it should remain in key. With that in mind though, don't go increasing your tempo by like 25%, keylock does have its limits. The article was pretty straight forward so I think imma shut up now

[sarasin]

There we go!

Perfect!



So if you pitching up a whack....add 7!

[Camelot]

Without Master Tempo, the basic rule is to keep the BPM differences between two tracks as small as possible. Differences of 1-2% may be objectionable to "golden ears." A track being out of key may sound like a band instrument being out of tune.

For major BPM differences, info in the "Region Shifting" section here may help: http://www.camelotsound.com/Advanced.aspx]

[sarasin]

Awesome!

[Camelot]

Redo your link, it doesn't work. :
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Sorry for the mistake. Please try this: http://www.camelotsound.com/Advanced.aspx

[space monkey]

Yeah, I generally don't long mix into a tempo change +/- 2% w/o key lock regardless of BPM. I do however pitch up the tempo of a track during a break and if the difference between the incoming track is still too great, use the key lock on the incoming until I can push it's tempo to 0%.
Key lock in T-Pro is a funny thing and i've noticed that <.5% doesn't artifact as much as greater values and 1.5%+ bass gets muffled and mids begin to sound warbled. Meh, hope i'm making some sort of sense. There is no one-size-fits-all method and at the end of the day let your ears be the judge.

[sarasin]

yep...trust the ears!

I had years of music training at school....learning theory etc.

Never thought it would REALLY help me in DJing and production....but its has!