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    Quote Originally Posted by BradCee View Post
    Remember, crap is relative.

    "One mans trash is another ones treasure"
    Thats fair enough, and I understand. Its just when I see DJ's that dont give 2 shits about their craft that gets my back up, and I see this EVERYWHERE. This really is the only 'profession' where the less care and attention you give, the more likely it is you'll get paid.

    I wholeheartedly believe that the people in my area; Derby, UK are ready for a change. I wish that person could be me. I just dont have faith in promoters or managers, because they dont care either.
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    This thread seems to be about the battle a lot of DJ's have with themselves.

    Am I an artist (playing my stuff, my way)

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    Am I a wedding DJ (getting paid, paying the bills)

    If you wanna get paid, you've gotta please your customer. They're paying, so they get what they want. If that means Abba and Whigfield, then that's what you'll have to play.

    If you wanna be an artist, you have to struggle, and sometimes do it for free. A lot of "artist" DJ's will never play a wedding, or get paid. They'll be the ones locking themselves in a room for 4 hrs at a time, spending MONTHS on a mix.

    Very unlikely you'll get it both ways (unless you're a superstar!)

    What's more important to you? Getting great feedback on a mix you've spent countless hours on (from the people around here that appreciate all of the effort that you've put into it, and understand what's going on in the mix), OR do you want to get paid for playing records?
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    $350 Not bad at all. Save it and get more gigs! Or buy a camera to take more pics to promote yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash101uk View Post
    Thats fair enough, and I understand. Its just when I see DJ's that dont give 2 shits about their craft that gets my back up, and I see this EVERYWHERE. This really is the only 'profession' where the less care and attention you give, the more likely it is you'll get paid.

    I wholeheartedly believe that the people in my area; Derby, UK are ready for a change. I wish that person could be me. I just dont have faith in promoters or managers, because they dont care either.
    if it's making money, then why change it? And most people like to hear stuff they know. Mainstream is called mainstream for a reason. Just have to tough it out...

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    If I'm not playing EDM then, yeah, it feels like a 'push play' experience. basically there is less to do in those genres. You can't layer, beat match or go crazy on the eq.

    On the other hand, not everybody is crazy about EDM and you're there to serve. There are 'good' songs in every genre. Personaly, I really don't dig top40 but there are allways older underated songs from that genre that I use. Plus, mixing Judas Priest with Paul kalkbrenner will send a bunch of frat boys into a frenzy. next thing you know they're dancing to Techno


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    If you wanna get paid, you've gotta please your customer. They're paying, so they get what they want. If that means Abba and Whigfield, then that's what you'll have to play.
    The type of music is not my issue, it is the dj's job to do this, but in a way thats interesting and passionate. If you're just pressing play that removes both the enjoyment and passion from your work. Which, in my experience, removes feeling from the very place you are trying to play for; the dancefloor.

    Im not saying the party wont be pumping, but from a punters point of view when a dj puts more effort in, its SO much better. Just a different level of awesomeness entirely.

    This is not just my own opinion, almost everyone I speak to, all my friends, etc agree with me whenever I start ranting on about this stuff.

    I dont think its just my local scene thats like this either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    What's more important to you? Getting great feedback on a mix you've spent countless hours on (from the people around here that appreciate all of the effort that you've put into it, and understand what's going on in the mix), OR do you want to get paid for playing records?
    Both , but most of all, I'd like to see some good dj's make an effort. There must be some of them out there, I mean, I come to these very forums and see hundreds of people with a passion for this.

    I try to vote with my feet, but its pretty difficult if ALL the dj's are shit.

    To the OP: Sorry for ranting on in your thread somewhat, good work getting paid too, invest it back into your passion. Go get some more records or a new mixer or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash101uk View Post
    To the OP: Sorry for ranting on in your thread somewhat, good work getting paid too, invest it back into your passion. Go get some more records or a new mixer or something
    boom. free money for playing tunes (assuming you love music and yeah it sucks doing that but you arent gonna get that type of cash bombarding people with music they dont like -- especailly if theyre paying you.

    go buy a new shiny toy with lights and knobs and buttons and shit-- the more the better IMHO :P

    or save it for the new traktor upgrade... i need to find myself a gig to pay for that. ahahah
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    Ya I've heard one song. It's called Skrillex.
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    [QUOTE=Patch;229114]
    Very unlikely you'll get it both ways (unless you're a superstar!)[/quote=Patch;229114]

    i would love to see tiesto be a wedding dj hahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by menez View Post
    $350 Not bad at all. Save it and get more gigs! Or buy a camera to take more pics to promote yourself
    Well not when you realize most wedding DJs on a saturday are getting closer to $2600 bux. I shit you not I gotta mate who is getting married next month and i asked how much they paid for the DJ. $2600 I laughed at them, and said u pay a guy almost 3000 grand to just press the play button and tell people the fish and chicken is being served. LOL at you...

    TO the OP:

    Bro dont feel bad enjoy the cash. I remmber 12 years ago when i did my first wedding type gig. Well it was my first and my last. the moneys great but you just stand there and press play, its fucking boring. I have turned down many of these tpyes of gigs for years.

    except once, when I got 200 bux to spin punk rock for like 4 hours. But I got choose what songs to play so that was kinda fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfuzion View Post
    Can you explain to me with tracks as examples as what you mean by banger then slow one, banger, then slow one, etc. I am very new to DJing, and am curious since I do like to spin hip hop as to how he did this, because I do not want to be the dude who fucks up everything up.

    Thank you sir .
    Check out ean's number system http://www.djtechtools.com/2009/10/2...by-track-type/, kinda helps explain how to keep a flow throughtout the night...I use 1 to 4 instead of 1 to 3. For me a 1 or a 2 would be like "Day n Night kid cudi" and a 3 or a 4 would be like "black and yellow"

    Hope it helps out a lil bit

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