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    I want a controller covered in APC encoders and faders, NI knobs, and LED back-lit arcade buttons galore.


    That would be controller perfection....imho
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    Do you happen to have this mapping available? I have an x1 and a s4, and I really like the idea of an audio 2 plus x1 to do everything I need and be able to toss it all in my laptop bag then head out. Much appreciated if you have this tsi!

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    I just finished a highly refined mixer mapping for 1 X1, that retains all of the X1's previous control abilities by adding two additional shift layers...

    I find myself having more fun mixing with just that, in Traktors internal mode, than I do on a big control vinyl setup into 2 channels of a 4 channel mixer.

    It just feels right, I don't have all this extra stuff going on that I don't really need for mixing two tracks together....

    It gives me such freedom... to be able to ROCK a set with my laptop, some cans, an Audio 2, and one X1.

    I have really shifted my idea of what I "need" to DJ with, and I'm getting away from buying new things, and getting into finding new ways of using what I have...

    One X1 ftw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exokinetic View Post
    I have really shifted my idea of what I "need" to DJ with, and I'm getting away from buying new things, and getting into finding new ways of using what I have...
    Dude, I love it. With the explosion of digital djing and (semi)affordable production gear, we were bound to see a million newer, better, shinier pieces of gear every season. We've gotta check our gear whoring at the door, or it's a never ending cycle. I look at a lot of this stuff and say, damn, I want that. But I've disciplined myself to stop and ask, "Do I really need it? Or can I do the same thing with something I already have?" Usually I can, and that's led to SOOO much learning.

    That being said though, you can't fake the way something looks or feels, and that can be really important too. In general though, I try and avoid the impulse buy, and get gear that I know will be solid for many purposes. I think I might be more of a software whore than a gear whore, come to think of it.
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    As the OP stated he does production, it puts a different "spin" on how he'd look at any given setup.

    Sounds baller tbh. I can see the potential, but wouldn't utilize it all myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PartyMark View Post
    Do you happen to have this mapping available? I have an x1 and a s4, and I really like the idea of an audio 2 plus x1 to do everything I need and be able to toss it all in my laptop bag then head out. Much appreciated if you have this tsi!
    I sure do!


    https://co.native-instruments.com/ph...Internal_K.zip


    Heres a more detailed description of the layout...




    I didn't change any of the mapping for the bottom 16 buttons at all, so they remain exactly the same for all hot cues, and transport controls.

    I also left the 4 encoders completely alone, they do exactly what they do in the stock mapping.

    So the changes begin with the 4 lateral buttons (FX1/FX2 Right and Left).

    The shift control for these 4 buttons is exactly the same as the stock mapping.

    i.e.

    Master Deck Select, Quantize, and Snap.

    These are all the same.


    Okay, so now to the changes.

    FX1 (left side) is now basically a shift key, with an LED to show you when it is enabled.

    FX2 (left side) toggle headphone cue deck A

    FX1 (right side) toggle headphone cue deck B

    FX2 (right side) is the other extra shift key, same deal with the LED feedback.

    The extra shift buttons are mutually exclusive.

    i.e. if the left shift button is on, the right shift button wont respond, and vice versa, to avoid control conflicts.

    And vise versa for the right shift button.


    Okay now moving up to the 8 buttons and knobs that make up the top of the X1.

    Starting at the top:

    The "top" control layer (no shift buttons)

    The top two buttons are basically "transform" buttons for their respective decks (across my entire mapping, left is Deck A, right is Deck B).

    If the button is dim and you press it, it shoves the volume fader up to 100%.

    If the button is lit and you press it, it shoves the volume fader down to 0%.

    This is intended for fast fader cuts.


    The top two knobs are basic "rotary" volume faders, they control the volume faders for Deck A, and Deck B respectively.

    The following three knobs beneath the top two are you mixers EQ knobs, set up for a 3 band EQ, Highs being the top, Mids in the middle, Lows on the bottom knob.

    The button next to the corresponding EQ knob is the "kill" button for that EQ frequency.

    The actual X1 shift layer only has 4 buttons on the top section. Everything else up there is un-bound under the stock shift layer.

    The four buttons are:

    The left 1 and 2 buttons, and the right 1 and 2 buttons.

    These buttons are the effect bank toggles for their respective decks.


    Okay.

    Now for the FX2 (Right Side) shift layer.

    When this button is LIT, indicating the shift layer is enabled, these are the resulting controls:

    The top two buttons and knobs are still exactly the same: "transform" buttons, and volume fader knobs.

    Moving down...

    The left "param1" knob is un-bound.
    This button remains "EQ Kill"

    The right "param1" knob is Traktor master gain.
    This button remains "EQ Kill"

    The left "param2" knob is Deck A gain.
    This button remains "EQ Kill"

    The right "param2" knob is Deck B gain.
    This button remains "EQ Kill"

    The left "param3" knob is Deck A filter.
    This button remains "EQ Kill"

    The right "param3" knob is Deck B filter.
    This button remains "EQ Kill"

    The left "FX2" button is the filter toggle for Deck A.

    The right "FX1" button is the filter toggle for Deck B.


    The main goal for this layer was to be able to manipulate the basic channel filter at the same time as manipulating the channel fader, allowing you to filter a track "in" or "out" of a mix.

    As well as incorporate basic gain controls into the mapping.

    I toyed with the idea of having the Monitor Mix, and Cue Volume controls where I currently have the Deck Gain controls...

    The way I use the headphones to cue, I don't use any "monitor mix" and I set the Cue level, and generally leave it.


    BUT, if this is important for you, and you use Traktors auto channel gain, then I would recommend changing the Channel gain knobs over to the cue mix, and level knobs.


    And lastly:

    The FX1 (Left Side) shift layer:

    This layer is an EXACT copy of the stock X1 effects mapping.

    Its has a few *minor* changes.

    The "chained" mode is EXACTLY the same as Traktors stock mapping, except there is no selection of certain effects via the stock shift button.

    The "advanced" mode has a few changes.

    The ability to select a specific effect for the bank via the stock shift button has been removed like in "chained".

    The LED that fires when the "reset" button is pressed has been removed to fix an LED bug, but it still controls the "reset" button in Traktor.

    The two effect buttons (other than the reset button) in the advanced FX bank have been changed from toggle, to hold, again to fix an LED bug.


    One final note about the mapping:

    The two extra shift buttons I added must use the "send monitor state" command (witch I have entered into the .tsi) witch updates the LED status to all controllers connected to Traktor.

    When I JUST have the X1 hooked up, this NEVER causes an issue.


    But in Windows installations, where additional controllers are added, this command is known to cause severe audio artifacts.

    If you run a mac, there is no issue, hook up as many controllers as you like...

    But I have found in the windows environment, if you are using "send monitor state" you are limited to X1's.

    The reason I say you are limited to X1's, is that it is MIDI LED data that causes this.

    The X1 when used in its Traktor specific mode does not use MIDI, it uses its own proprietary command structure, and is thus immune to this issue.

    Let me know if you have any issues!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Kyoti View Post
    Dude, I love it. With the explosion of digital djing and (semi)affordable production gear, we were bound to see a million newer, better, shinier pieces of gear every season. We've gotta check our gear whoring at the door, or it's a never ending cycle. I look at a lot of this stuff and say, damn, I want that. But I've disciplined myself to stop and ask, "Do I really need it? Or can I do the same thing with something I already have?" Usually I can, and that's led to SOOO much learning.

    That being said though, you can't fake the way something looks or feels, and that can be really important too. In general though, I try and avoid the impulse buy, and get gear that I know will be solid for many purposes. I think I might be more of a software whore than a gear whore, come to think of it.
    agree with your sentiment...sometimes gear whoring takes on a life of its own i've tried to restrict mine to consolidation. i used to have two turntables, two cdjs and a mixer, traktor scratch, audio 4 etc. now i just have the s4 and a laptop. love the streamlining digital djings offers...

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    Way to be rude guys. I'm one X1 away from a mothership myself.
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    Can you really expect to make a thread showing off an excellent selection of gear and not get teased a little by us jealous folk? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by photojojo View Post
    Way to be rude guys. I'm one X1 away from a mothership myself.
    I have all of the Mothership... I have no idea what to do with it...

    Looks pretty though.

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    im a massive gear whore

    I doubt I will use maschine with traktor but I may use the other controller with maschine/ableton

    and yeah I sold my Xone: 4D and got all this shit, so good deal


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