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    also the mixer in a club will mostly be in the middle of the booth. so when using the mixer the dj will also stay in the middle of the booth and be present for the crowd...i don´t like to see dj´s standing at the edge of the booth starring at their notebook for one hour...that is also a reason why i use a mixer - be present for your crowd
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    Quote Originally Posted by earl panda View Post
    also the mixer in a club will mostly be in the middle of the booth. so when using the mixer the dj will also stay in the middle of the booth and be present for the crowd...i don´t like to see dj´s standing at the edge of the booth starring at their notebook for one hour...that is also a reason why i use a mixer - be present for your crowd
    I never thought about that but you are right!

    I also prefer mixing externally. There are mixers in a club so you don't have to bring your own one and mixer faders feel more responsive (volume-wise) than software/midi faders. It also allows me to use the faders and EQ rotary knobs for effects and such.

    The only down-side is that you need to have an interface with at least 2 (preferably 3/4) stereo outputs and you should have a mixer at home to practice external mixing. You can get a cheap mixer, though, as it's not required to have extreme durability if it just sits on your desk.

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    I prefer external mixing too. The quality of the faders and pots from a mid - high end mixer kills those on most controllers. NI's about the only one ive seen get it right.

    Also, you dont get fader curve control on midi stuff like you do on hardware mixers.
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    Yeah for me its all about the fader curve. Also, my mixer has a Built in Kaoss pad which is killer for filter builds and stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by captcha View Post
    Yeah for me its all about the fader curve. Also, my mixer has a Built in Kaoss pad which is killer for filter builds and stuff!
    #98 is my favorite fx on the korg - km402!
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    I have a Denon X 600 and have been using it as an internal midi mixer. Reading this thread though really makes me think I have to give that puppy a chance showing it's own possibilities
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    I'd like NOT to need an analogue mixer but here's my own scenarios you guys might be familar with:

    Club: I have to integrate with the house mixer and decks - using Traktor Scratch Pro and Audio4DJ. I like the vinyl control and the other guys I play alongside with use CD and vinyl (although two are becoming DVS converts) so I can't shift all the house gear away. Sometimes I will add a controller - Akai LPD8 or VCI100 (arcade! yay!) - depending on the gig style.

    Private gigs: I use the VCI and laptop plus I use an analogue mixer, which I've had since before I went digital, for microphone input (the Audio4DJ interface doesnt have one like the Audio8 etc)
    PLUS if my laptop goes kaput I can plug in my iphone and ipod and run emergency music (using Red Bull's BPM app installed for BASIC transitions).

    Im planning to buy a Behringer Xenyx 502 or similar tiny cheap mixer for above mentioned basic needs. Anyone else thinking the same? My 5 channel mixer is now too big and I'm happy with the faders on my VCI so I dont need a super mixer.



    I'd LIKE to be able to use just my VCI and laptop, Audio4DJ for master out and sometimes the ins from my turntables for DVS. Controllerism and DVS for me.
    I'd really like a Traktor Scratch certified mixer (like Pioneer's new one or the Denon 2 ch mixer that does it) plus some additional midi buttonz along side (midi fighter? LPD8?) OR maybe upgrade the Audio4 to one with a mic once I can learn to totally trust my laptop (I'll always carry some CD-Rs fulla mp3s or an iphone in case!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by earl panda View Post
    #98 is my favorite fx on the korg - km402!
    Apply something like #74 or #76 at 100% wet, press HOLD and leave the room.

    EDIT: I know you could do that with any effect to annoy the ship out of people but those effects between 70-79 are really the weirdest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michielygil View Post
    I have a Denon X 600 and have been using it as an internal midi mixer. Reading this thread though really makes me think I have to give that puppy a chance showing it's own possibilities
    Oooh nice, I really like the look of the DN X600 and wouldn't mind one myself. How do you find it? Likes/dislikes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDeluxe View Post
    I'd really like a Traktor Scratch certified mixer (like Pioneer's new one or the Denon 2 ch mixer that does it)
    Yo. You know it's not actually traktor scratch certified, right? It only works on windows due to a bug and doesn't work on mac at all. Just a heads up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash101uk View Post
    Also, you dont get fader curve control on midi stuff like you do on hardware mixers.
    Good point.
    This is led me to the VCI which does give you that control, I just couldnt use a standard midi crossfader otherwise. I had a Numark NS7 with the same adjustment, that was a nice fader too.

    (just a shame the NS7 with Itch was too power hungry for my laptop and would cause lag sometimes on the control n fader actions, the rest of the time it was super sharp. A better computer and it would be sweet, loved the motor platters but the NS7 was waaaay too big n heavy)

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