Mixed in Key - Gripe

**Ando** · 05-30-2011, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by GeekGod

I've had a lot of problems with MIK crashing. Author seems more hellbent on bringing a new product to market than to fix the current issues in the said software. Sad.

i had not a single problem with the os x version and i scanned quite a mass of mp3s and waves. what did you do to make it crash?

**V-Hoff** · 05-30-2011, 02:21 PM

I'm glad that I read this thread! Thank you for sharing.

I'm with a Win7 but with a mac on my way, was thinking about starting to analyze my songs with MiK for win7 but now I'll wait some more and try RE3 before buying it.

Hope it all ends well for you

**djproben** · 05-30-2011, 02:26 PM

I love how they didn't even give you lifetime upgrades for your current version but only after you would give them another 60$ for the exact same program that's funny.

Actually you do get lifetime upgrades for whatever version you own.

I don't like that people have to pay twice either but just to speak up a bit in their defense -- the MIK guys are really helpful and knowledgeable when you have problems and they are very active on message boards. It's almost the opposite of NI in terms of public accessibility as a company. I feel like I got my $60 worth in customer service alone.

They're charging for two different versions because they have to license the algorithm for each version that gets sold. I'm pretty sure that's why the software "phones home" each time you use it also. But, that said, yeah they should offer a discount to cross-platform users on the second seat, or they should allow you to "return" your license for one platform as you move to the other platform. There should be a way for them to work this out and still remain profitable.

**MiL0** · 05-30-2011, 02:50 PM

$60 is pretty cheap for a program that is virtually essential for any serious Traktor dj (and yes, in my experience its much more accurate than RE).

if it cost $120 for a license that works on multi-platforms you probably wouldn't be complaining. The price would be perhaps too much, but then that's why they sell one platform licenses at $60.

and I wouldn't recommend torrenting it (don't think it's even possible with MIK) but what's to stop you selling the PC license and using the money to put towards a MAC license?

**Bassline Brine** · 05-30-2011, 02:54 PM

Yeah, I have no real issues with the actual software itself. I like it, and I wouldn't have run into this issue if I didn't. With the new beta beatport, having the key and BPM already included in track purchases, it's not really a huge issue for the future. But for analyzing tracks that don't have it included already? It's nice to have something to go off of, even if you have to tweak it a bit.

I tried RE3 and it was probably the most unstable program I've ever had the glory of dealing with.

I'm going back and forth with them a bit, and I'll keep you guys posted. I refuse to buy the program again, and if that is how it's going to be, then I just will go without. It's not something that is so integral to my music process that I HAVE to have it. Like I said before, it's just "nice" really.

**MuzicFreq** · 05-30-2011, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by MiL0

$60 is pretty cheap for a program that is virtually essential for any serious Traktor dj (and yes, in my experience its much more accurate than RE).

if it cost $120 for a license that works on multi-platforms you probably wouldn't be complaining. The price would be perhaps too much, but then that's why they sell one platform licenses at $60.

and I wouldn't recommend torrenting it (don't think it's even possible with MIK) but what's to stop you selling the PC license and using the money to put towards a MAC license?

That all depends on what genre I mix trance and so I needed something a bit more reliable. I tried MiK and I ran into many many songs I couldnt mix because they clashed badly but with RE3 I havent had that issue except with remixes from Tiesto >.> damn him lol

**Bassline Brine** · 05-30-2011, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by MiL0

$60 is pretty cheap for a program that is virtually essential for any serious Traktor dj (and yes, in my experience its much more accurate than RE).

if it cost $120 for a license that works on multi-platforms you probably wouldn't be complaining. The price would be perhaps too much, but then that's why they sell one platform licenses at $60.

and I wouldn't recommend torrenting it (don't think it's even possible with MIK) but what's to stop you selling the PC license and using the money to put towards a MAC license?

I just think it's terrible business practice to run licensing in such a manner. It's not that I don't like the program, nor that I don't think it's good to have. Quite the opposite, I bought it in the first place.

But in modern times, multi-platform licensing costs being passed onto the consumer in such a manner in such a way just bothers the shit out of me. Even if it wasn't myself directly involved, if I had heard of this, I wouldn't have purchased the software in the first place since I was contemplating more than one operating system.

Selling it is always an option, but that's also a pain in the ass. For a program like Ableton, sure, it's a $600 investment. But with something like MiK? I might as well just eat the $60 and call it a day rather than deal with the hassle of selling the license.

**bartboy** · 05-30-2011, 05:47 PM

honestly the new MIX! DJ program comes equipped with a Key analyzer built into the software - I would rather pick that up than give MIK any of my money. Hopefully Traktor just either comes up with there own algorithm or licenses one for use with Traktor.

**Bassline Brine** · 05-30-2011, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by bartboy

honestly the new MIX! DJ program comes equipped with a Key analyzer built into the software - I would rather pick that up than give MIK any of my money. Hopefully Traktor just either comes up with there own algorithm or licenses one for use with Traktor.

With the new beatport beta, the key information and BPM are included when you purchase the track. So it's not really going to be an issue for the music you buy new in the future, just older stuff and stuff you rip yourself.