Native instruments pissed me off! Goodbye

[Chilly]

I'll buy your license

[1/0]

Previous Torq'r here and while Torq is user friendly and the assignment of functions to MIDI control is very simple, but limited (at least as it pertains to 1.0), the scratching ability of Torq is not nearly as good as TSP. Not sure what sets the scratching in TSP apart, probably myriad reasons, but on the same setup that I was using Torq I noticed immediately a truer vinyl response when I began using TSP. I miss the simplicity of Torq, but the aesthetics and features do not match TSP, IMO.

Also, Torq creates a file for each track after it has been loaded into the program, which contains all the relevant data for that track (i.e., BPM, cue points, etc.). On their own, the file is very small, but if your library is large, they can add up fast and losing that file means you lose everything you've associated to that music file. I was not sad to delete them once I had finally integrated TSP and free up the storage space.

It's funny that you were enraged at NI for not allowing you to crossgrade. One of the things that irritated me about Torq/M-Audio, was that I purchased when it first came out and they still wanted me to pay $50 for the upgrade to 1.5! Not only that, they were sooooo slow to finally release 2.0 that I gave up waiting for an upgrade worth paying for and last year said bye-bye. If you think users were miffed at M-Audio's lack of tech support/upgrades, you can only imagine how upset their "DJs" were. Just google DJ Revolution and Torq, you'll find he couldn't wait around any longer and finally left for SSL.

[lethal_pizzle]

To be fair I don't know why NI have got rid of the crossgrade option. Now it's a bit of a hassle 'cos you've got to sell your Traktor Pro license and buy a TS Pro license - which means:

- less people buying the TSP license from NI
- more people buying TPro licenses 2nd hand - for which NI don't get any $$$

Seems a bit non-sensical to me.

[Karlos Santos]

The Original Crossgrade offer was for people that already had T3 and wanted TS as well.
The difference was that there was 2 different versions of Traktor out there:
Namely, Traktor 3 and Traktor Scratch.
T3 was DVS enabled when you bought the Crossgrade.

That does make a difference, however, i completely agree that there should be a crossgrade for the current version in fact, i have long been a proponent of a more modular route for all traktor users.

Its a lot of money to shell out in one go and ive always said that Traktor DVS should be something that the new DJ should be able to build piece by piece.

[djchriswoods.co.uk]

all you had to do was save a little longer....patience is key

[Nicky H]

Jesus it's not that expensive..

Get a job

[space monkey]

To be fair I don't know why NI have got rid of the crossgrade option. Now it's a bit of a hassle 'cos you've got to sell your Traktor Pro license* and buy a TS Pro license - which means:

- less people buying the TSP license from NI
- more people buying TPro licenses 2nd hand - for which NI don't get any $$$

Seems a bit non-sensical to me.

whoah, wtf? when did this happen? Or do you mean to sell it for the extra cash?
I would hope one could possess both TP and TSP license.

*emphasis mine

[xtianw]

not that i agree with your decision, but ive known the guy that runs the torq program at avid for years.

his name is shawn parker and hes quite possibly one of the most gifted dj's ive ever met. sadly he doesnt play much anymore and when he moved into software development he basically gave up on making a name for himself as a dj.

but hes special. in a john digweed, sasha, taylor (los angeles), doc martin kind of way.

i have no doubt in my mind that torq is in very very good hands.

[Sherlock Ohms]

whoah, wtf? when did this happen? Or do you mean to sell it for the extra cash?
I would hope one could possess both TP and TSP license.

*emphasis mine

Emphasis is wrong -I think it's more of a case of If you want to UPGRADE from TP to TSP you can flog one license and buy the other, you can't crossgrade anymore

Nowt wrong with owning both if you want (though I've no idea why you'd need both)

[Paka Ono]

I'll buy your license

Win!