Beatgrid on Traktor oldschool electronic music !

[ToOntown]

Hey man, i think you dont understand me, i dont found many reports about experiences of djs who play a lot of oldschool disco and house on traktor pro 2 (not traktor scratch), but i think they exist, a lot of djs who like to play this styles and stoped play with vinyl for some reasons dont stop to play this type of music because the dificult or sometimes impossible beatgrid, i wanna know and share this experiences about this, how difficult is ? if it's really impossible to beatgrid some musics like this.

Dig this my main man. I think he digs you. What you need to dig is that there be a lot of info in these forums and YouTube about this shit. You just be seein' what yo internet done feel like, right baby bubba?

There ain't no secret to Beatgridding the classics, man. Either you warp them in Ableton, Beatgrid the parts you be mixin', or you beatmatch and nudge like the jive turkeys did back in the day. Ya dig?

[ToOntown]

Live bands are nearly impossible to beatgrid in Traktor unless the drummer is spot on. You can warp them in Ableton first, but you risk losing some of the feel.

Here's a nice write up Ean did on make custom edits of these tracks.
http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/02/1...-ableton-pt-1/

He never did part 2! Come on, Ean!!! You slacker!

[disco420]

Interesitng, i think just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, not the whole music, is the best solution, so, that's the process right ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM5gr...B3B5E6A7F3BC3D

[disco420]

But whit this solution of just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, i can't use efx, on the parts of the track that i dont beatgrided because the bpm variation in this parts right ??

[Nicky H]

But whit this solution of just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, i can't use efx, on the parts of the track that i dont beatgrided because the bpm variation in this parts right ??

Right

Well you can use them but any tempo- related ones will be a bit out of sync.

Buy a controller with pitch faders and jog wheels and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatmatching"]Beatmatching - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[disco420]

Right

Well you can use them but any tempo- related ones will be a bit out of sync.

Buy a controller with pitch faders and jog wheels and Beatmatching - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

hey man, i test some old disco tracks not beatgrided like Double Exposure-My Love Is Free on the software traktor demo, and appear to me that effefcts work normally, like flangers, filters, and some echos, the problem will arise if i beatgrid only one part of the track (like the part i want to mix), and when i use the efects on the part not beatgrided they will work totally out of tempo ? is this ?

[Nicky H]

hey man, i test some old disco tracks not beatgrided like Double Exposure-My Love Is Free on the software traktor demo, and appear to me that effefcts work normally, like flangers, filters, and some echos, the problem will arise if i beatgrid only one part of the track (like the part i want to mix), and when i use the efects on the part not beatgrided they will work totally out of tempo ? is this ?

Even if you make it so only a part of the track is correctly gridded, the beatgrid is still there throughout the song.
The effects will match the grid, so it depends how far out of sync the grid is when you apply the effect.

[disco420]

Even if you make it so only a part of the track is correctly gridded, the beatgrid is still there throughout the song.
The effects will match the grid, so it depends how far out of sync the grid is when you apply the effect.

hmmm im se, so its not a rule, tracks with tempo variation effects work horrible right ? with a little tempo variations, i can use effects because it's not too noticiable this little variation in a effect right ?

[Nicky H]

Not saying it will sound horrible - just not perfectly in sync - only the effects that use timing though - Delay, Gater etc..

[disco420]

Im understand now, thanks alot, well i think i will buy traktor, and how i dont have money to use s4, i will with 2 kontrol x1, and for mixing my disco stuff i will do that thing, loop the mix points e beatgrid and then, i think it will be nice