Beat Grids On Live Music

[wrong chris]

a human feeling.

a human feeling? i do not compute.

[eightyseven]

a human feeling? i do not compute.

ahahaha

[Zac Kyoti]

Keep in mind, at least at this moment in time, Traktor can only recognize one BPM per track. Meaning: Setting multiple grid markers only restarts the grid from that point. Changing bpm will change bpm of EVERY grid in the track.

[Slackman25]

Being a drummer myself I totally understand the concept of drifts in tempo and that on old electronic records recorded or edited via tape to tape there will always be tape stretch to take into consideration. Coming from 18 years of djing vinyl the transition to digital is tricky in respect of the hands on nudges and drags that I would use to keep an old disco in tempo during the mix. So to get this straight I can edit the track in ableton to move the drums around or set muliple grids in traktor ( how many grids can you set?) or ride the pitch in a similar way to vinyl.

[Karlos Santos]

Keep in mind, at least at this moment in time, Traktor can only recognize one BPM per track. Meaning: Setting multiple grid markers only restarts the grid from that point. Changing bpm will change bpm of EVERY grid in the track.

Yeah multiple grids in the same part of a track is pointless but for 4 bar intros and 4 bar Outros it can work.
A Warping ability in Traktor is a little way off yet.

[DvlsAdvct]

You can load the track in Ableton and use the Warp function to normalize the tempo.

In Traktor you can set multiple beat grids, but that might not help in this situation as all the second beat marker does is restart the grid from that point with the same tempo. With the nature of drift being what it is, I wouldn't do this.

I would either ride the pitch or warp it in Ableton

[Karlos Santos]

Yeah dude i agree. What im describing is just using a grid just for an intro for a few bars . Then set another grid right at the end of the track for 4 bars.
Obviously for a lot of music it just wont work but its worth a try for those guys that need grids to mix.

I also prefer to ride the pitch.

Its only a matter of time until Traktor has the same warping ability as Ableton.
Now that is a tasty prospect.

[BentoSan]

Now if only Traktor had a decent enough sync with Ableton to make it possible to use the master tempo on a track with changing tempos. Which would change abletons tempo in time with the music.

I dont think we will be seeing that any time soon - i suspect we wont see anything until HD midi is supported by both programs.

[DvlsAdvct]

Oh that wasn't directed at you, Karlos. It was just a follow-up to Slackman's question.

You obviously know something

I've been wondering if Traktor would ever implement a Warp function... I'd see it happening at about the same time they implement a VST function. Just don't think it's something that really works in Traktor's workflow, unless NI wants to start developing their own complete DAW solution to compete with Ableton. Now that would be something.

[Karlos Santos]

You obviously know something

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Oh NO i feel a terrible rumour about to begin hahaha
No i dont know anything really , it was suggested in one of the On The Record Sessions that an Traktor will have 'variable grids' implemented in a version after v1.1

We live in hope