Which controller to get? Traktor S2?

[Nibbsy]

I've never had turntables before, but I'm assuming something like two turntables + a two-channel mixer that can switch between Line and Phono inputs would work. Hook it all up via an Audio 6 and have both traditional vinyl and timecode control that you can switch between on-the-fly? Hmmm... I should do some research.

And, yes, the VCI-100 is as limited as the S2 in regards to DVS. The VCI-100 doesn't have a built-in sound card, as opposed to the S2.

Ah that's really helpful, thanks. What do people do with the VCI-100 then? Would I need to buy an Audio 4 as well?

On your first point, yes I've had that set up in my place in the past - 2 channel mixer plus timecode vinyl and Audio 6, switching between analogue and timecode vinyl. The only issue there is that you HAVE to have turntables for it to work, whereas I need more versatility.

[BURST!]

Burst! - would it work to get an S2 with Traktor Scratch? That comes with an Audio 8 soundcard doesn't it? Would I then be able to switch between analogue and timecoded vinyl using the S2 as a mixer?

I believe that would work. But if you're just using the s2 as a mixer, there are probably better options out there.

The VCI would be cheaper whilst providing similar functions, and there are some great mappings for it.

[Nibbsy]

Ok, thanks. Yes I would at times just be using it as a mixer, but it would also work as a standalone controller, right?

What I want is to be able to switch between MP3 controller, vinyl mixer and timecoded with as few pieces of equipment as possible. I feel like I am getting closer now.

[Nibbsy]

Isn't the XoneX completely MIDI-mappable?

I'm sure it can be used with any software, but it would be nice to have a controller that was built for Traktor rather than Serato.

It's not a deal breaker though. Ifanyone knows how well the Xone DX plays with Traktor then I'd be very interested to hear.

[Onimode]

The Kontrol S4 + the scratch upgrade is the simplest way to go, if you're looking for the setup with the least amount of parts.

[Nibbsy]

Yeah that makes sense. I'm just wondering whether the S4 is too much - it's bigger than I'd like, and I wouldn't use quite a few of the features. I don't mind an extra box or 2 if necessary.

I would prefer to get something like the S2 plus Traktor Scratch, or Xone DX plus timecoded vinyl, or look at other options.

Maybe the VCI-100 plus Traktor Scratch is the way to go, on the basis that it's a better mixer than the S2?

[Bassline Brine]

Honestly what you really want sounds like the Xone 4D.

That being said, the best option to fit everything you want to do is the S4 within a reasonable budget.

Just need to envision your perfect setup, then work at making it happen. I wouldn't worry too much about compensating for what your friends use, just get what will bring you the most happiness in the long run.

If you want a MIDI controller, and they want to use vinyl, than having a 3+ channel mixer between two turntables, with the extra channels plugged in from the MIDI controller is another option.

But if you want to keep it sweet and simple, it's a small playing field.

[Nibbsy]

Thanks. The Xone 4D is a little over my budget though really. What does it do that the DX doesn't? I've been looking at Itch 2 and possibly considering a switch to Serato based on your post from the previous page - I never use the looping or sample functions in Traktor.

It's not only my friends, I also have a large vinyl collection and want to be able to switch between digital and analogue easily. The S4 just seems like I'm paying (and using extra space - my desk isn't big enough to fit an S4 between 2 turntables) for functionality I won't be using.

My perfect set up is a reasonable quality midi controller which can also be used as an analogue mixer, and can also use timecoded vinyl. As I understand it, the VCI-100 with an Audio 6 would fit the bill, and so would Xone DX (but this would mean using Serato), but I'm struggling to find a definitive answer.

[muffintop]

You could go with an audio 6, xone 22, and a couple x1s. retail that comes to around 950 usd which should be right around your mark. Could save some money going used or just a single x1 (which might suit your needs more than 2.

Gives you room for timecode, analogue, and still a very standalone solution.

[Nibbsy]

Cheers muffintop. Is that the Native Instruments X1 you're talking about? Just had a look at them - I don't really understand what they do. Is it a midi controller for one deck? How do you adjust the pitch control? I can't see any pitch sliders...