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    Quote Originally Posted by tombruton69 View Post
    I dont understand the problem you are having with backspins as they are very simple. And even somthing like the hercules rmx can perform them. Maybe learn to do them on a turntable with vinyl then move onto a controller, ul have to use force but not too much else the needle will skip
    The problem is the touch-sensitive platters. After some arbitrary amount of time, Traktor realizes that he's not touching the platter anymore and switch from scratch mode to pitch-bend mode. With the platter spinning that quickly backwards, it would suddenly switch from going backwards at high speed to going forwards at a very low speed, probably giving some artifacts related to the time stretching if key lock is on.

    The only reason CDJs don't do it is because Pioneer's coders made different assumptions about how people were going to use them.

    I haven't used a controller that can backspin like vinyl unless you're going for a very quick effect. That's part of why I don't have any platters in my setup…they all suck compared to having a record, and DVS hasn't been worth it when I've tried it before.

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    just get a Numark NS7, or a NUmark V7;

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    my vci100 (mkI) can perform backspins just fine, even with the touch sensitive jogs. when i spin it, my jogs register the touch, go into scratch mode, and will continue to stay in scratch mode until the jogs have stopped spinning. dont know if this is a "bug" or a feature, but they work perfectly for me. i cant really speak on other touch sensistive jogs though...

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    VDJ has it built into the vinyl mode setting, so it wont re-commence playing the track until the platter has almost stopped moving, it isn't time based like traktor appears to be from mostapha's post..

    And backspins are lame unless you are playing drum n bass, and are going to scream on the mic "REWIN SELECTAH" then smash back into the track, if your going to do it live to house or electro etc.. once is enough..
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    forgot to mention im on traktor scratch pro 1. just upgraded to tsp2, though i havent tested a backspin with it yet. ill let you know what i find

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    right i see ur point. the hercules rmx that i started off with didnt have touch sensite jogs, they where movement sensitive so there was a button is u wanted scratch mode. you could write some commands in a midi converter to sort this out but that would mean running another piece of software, wouldnt be to hard though.

    there is allways the scs1d by stanton. it now works really well with traktor 1. however rthey are dragging there feet with traktor 2 which is a right pain in the ass.

    when they sort it out it should be good. Will be interesting to see how things pan out with mixxx. there are a few more developers working on it so hopefully progress will be quicker. it also has a full scripting language for midi

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