TP2 + Kontrol S4 + Ableton Live 8

[EchePalante]

Hi and Merry Christmas to everyone!!!! So i had some free time today and decided to try for one last time to route my S4 into Ableton in order to use all the cool effects it has, and i finally did it!!! it was so damn easy that i actually got angry for not figuring out before.

So in order to do it you have to get Soundflower for mac (free) and some time in order to set it up (about 10 min).

1. Install SoundFlower
2. Use it in 16ch in/16ch out mode.
3. Go into Traktor Pro 2 preference and pick Soundflower as your audio device.
4. Go to Output routing and select external mixing mode. Then route Decks A,B,C,D to 1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8. (remember that because you are in external mixing mode you will loose your channel faders)

Now Ableton
1.Go to Live preferences
2.Go to audio and select SoundFlower as your audio INPUT device. And select TRAKTOR S4 as your OUTPUT Device.
3.Go to Session View and duplicate 4 audio tracks (rename it Deck A,B,C,D).
4.On each Channel in the Audio From choose 1-2 for deck A, 3-4 for deck B, 5-6 for deck C and 7-8 for deck D also select it as IN.
5. In order to be able to CUE with your headphones go to the master channel and in the MASTER OUT select 1-2 and on the CUE OUT select 3-4.

And that's it!!!!!!!!!! Now i can use Ableton effects (love my dummy clips) with Traktor!!! And i still can use my Ipad 2 with the Ifigther mapping! What i personally do to control the channel faders is hook up my APC 40 which i also use to trigger dummy clips and instant effects.

If anyone want some help setting this up fell free to PM.

Cheers.....

How about if you use audio units like Massive. Can you use those types of effects too? (even thought its not really an effect more like an instrument)

[MrAybar]

As long as the host (in your case massive) has audio routing you can!!!!!!!!!

[MrAybar]

Still working'!!!! Cant wait for tp 2.5

[zestoi]

Still working'!!!! Cant wait for tp 2.5

are u using midi sync too for effects like delay's etc in ableton? i had a play today and it didn't seem awesome with ableton synched to traktor but not too bad the other way round. if i'm doing more in traktor tho track wise i guess it would be nicer to have ableton sync to the clock in traktor. each time i start it up it seems a bit hit and miss with the clock offset i have to set. i am using an old version of live tho - may well pay for the upgrade...

i used soundflower too for routing the audio - was stupidly simple to do - easier than i had expected anyway

[JDFS]

And for the lose of the channel faders; just map the S4's channel faders (MIDI Mode) to the Deck A, B, C and D faders in Ableton where the max. setting is 0 dB. I've mapped my X1 to Ableton and Traktor simultaneously, using Jack OS X for the routing.

[MrAybar]

Yeap soundflower is just plain stupid but an amazing tool!!!!! And personally What i do i sync ableton to the traktor midi clock but i do need to set it up each time so that it is flawless!!! After a while u just get use to it!!!! But for me right now is the best setup ever the best of both world!!!!!

@JDFS can you share how you can use the same controller with both tp and ableton?????

[zestoi]

Yeap soundflower is just plain stupid but an amazing tool!!!!! And personally What i do i sync ableton to the traktor midi clock but i do need to set it up each time so that it is flawless!!! After a while u just get use to it!!!! But for me right now is the best setup ever the best of both world!!!!!

def a lot simpler to use than jack too - nothing really to even setup... not sure i fancy messing around with the clock offset while about to play a gig (assuming i go back to playing out sometime and with this setup)

if u could midimap the clock adjustments i wouldn't mind tho - could then tweak on the fly. not sure i have the option to "nudge" in my old copy of live5 so may well upgrade it soon - cheaper than i had thought anyway.

@JDFS can you share how you can use the same controller with both tp and ableton?????

i'll chip in for him... normally u can only use one midi controller port with one app (in fact that's still the case) unless u use middleware sofware like my midimasher *but* with the S4 u can use hid mode with traktor and then midi mode with ableton