Novation Twitch - My Review

[dj subculture]

Thanks, I'll look into that link and give the Twitch strong consideration.

[djelektron]

Hmm, looks like i'll be tinkering with the knobs a bit then, thanks for the advice. I think it's a poor oversiht on novation's part, but it's not a dealbreaker.

Regarding laptops capable of running ITCH, I run it on a C2d 2.53ghz and 4gb of ram without issue on win7 64bit. I havent had anything weird happen yet.

Looking forward to that routine JPrime, I may have to record my first for the DJTT Comp

[khemfusion]

Hmm, looks like i'll be tinkering with the knobs a bit then, thanks for the advice. I think it's a poor oversiht on novation's part, but it's not a dealbreaker.

http://www.tme.eu/en/details/gw15b/s...sistors-knobs/

These are the ones that I found, they fit quite flush and feel pretty good....

If anyone has any luck changing the volume faders hit me up!

[dookiex]

http://www.tme.eu/en/details/gw15b/s...sistors-knobs/

These are the ones that I found, they fit quite flush and feel pretty good....

If anyone has any luck changing the volume faders hit me up!

IMHO, those knobs are even worse than the stock knobs because those are straight up non-textured (knurls don't count) plastic. Those tends to be even more slippery when your fingers are wet or oily and they tend to get even more slippery after some use (because the plastic finish wears down eventually and then gets super slippery). Those knobs make the knobs turn better because they are not touching the faceplate like the stock knobs but in terms of grip, not a great feel. It's basically a step down in terms of grip-ability. Either stick with the stock knobs in that instance or just get DJTT knobs. Doesn't matter if they sit high because it's not going to matter in terms of durability or use, just a purely aesthetics thing.

As for the faders, the fader caps comes right off the posts on the Twitch. Pretty much any standard sized fader caps should fit on the posts. Get yourself something with grip like a balloon or dishwashing gloves to give you some grip and just pull the caps right off.

[fdawg]

thanks for the reviews guys, really helpful.

I am just debating whether to get a Twitch and to use it with Itch or TP2. I currently use TP2, Numark Omni Control and Launchpad (with Instant gratification mapping) but I am starting to hate the Omnicontrol for various reasons and Twitch is really reasonably priced and I like the controllerist slant it has.

[khemfusion]

Are serious? Have you tried these knobs? If you actually look at the controller you can see that the original knobs don't touch anything, they are just thin and smooth with a sharp angle at the top, thats why they feel "different", a slightly wider knob balances that out.

Why would you push people into buying something that is obviously wrong for this controller?? DJTTs knobs are great, but unfortunately wont fit the Twitch..... its pretty simple....

The TME's are just an example and a personal preference (and no, they wont melt under oily fingers....LOL) any knob thats at least 17mm high and 15,5mm wide should fit.

DJTT's on the Twitch:

The fader cap looks right at home!

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TME's on the Twitch:

[khemfusion]

Heres the knobs i put on..


http://www.flickr.com/photos/74236719@N05/6689994823


http://www.flickr.com/photos/74236719@N05/6689992831

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74236719@N05/6689990993

Nice! kinda reminds me of the vci400 E G edition..... I come from an Ecler so im more used to the fatter knobs, but those look really grippy and precise

[deco]

Kevz 718 - where'd ya get those blue knobs - very nice!
edit - you found on ebay

[dookiex]

Are serious? Have you tried these knobs? If you actually look at the controller you can see that the original knobs don't touch anything, they are just thin and smooth with a sharp angle at the top, thats why they feel "different", a slightly wider knob balances that out.

Why would you push people into buying something that is obviously wrong for this controller?? DJTTs knobs are great, but unfortunately wont fit the Twitch..... its pretty simple....

The TME's are just an example and a personal preference (and no, they wont melt under oily fingers....LOL) any knob thats at least 17mm high and 15,5mm wide should fit.

DJTT's on the Twitch:

The fader cap looks right at home!

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TME's on the Twitch:

Are you serious that you have no clue as to the fact that the stock knobs actually rub up against the cutouts on the top plate and that is what causes the stiffness in the knobs? It doesn't take a genius to pull the knobs up from their posts a bit to find that the knobs become much easier to turn when one does this. In doing so, if one took a look at how the knob is seated in relations to the cutout on the top plate, it's immediately evident that as soon as the knob clears the cutout on the top plate, they instantly become super smooth to turn (there's quite a number of knobs on the Twitch where you can feel a little graininess, this is solved when you pull the knobs up from their posts a bit).

You're basically just concerned about aesthetics here. If you actually use controllers heavily, the aesthetics are basically the last thing you should be concerned about. The feels of the knobs are of utmost importance. Just because the DJTT knobs sits high on the posts, it's not creating any technical problems. They are not going to make your controller any more fragile. They just have a gap that may not be aesthetically as pleasing as when there is no gap but honestly, lots of mixers out there with knobs that don't sit flush. The most important thing is how well the knobs feel in all conditions as well as how well they turn. As I've already clearly explained, how well these turn on the Twitch is in direct correlation to if there's any friction between the knobs and the cutouts on the top plate. Since the DJTT don't sit flush, this solves the friction problem. The DJTT knobs also solve the slippery plastic fantastic feel problem of the stock knobs since they are rubberized. Rubberized provides grip when your hands are dry, wet, oily, whatever. Plastic slips when you're fingers are moist or oily. At least the stock knobs on the Twitch are textured, the knobs you've put on the Twitch there are slippery plastic knobs. Under stressful conditions, the knobs you're using tend to provide little to no grip and on top of that, that type of plastic tends to wear down eventually and become even more slipper (it's basically the same type of plastic used on average computer keyboards, it doesn't take a genius to understand just by looking at the keyboards they use on a regular basis, that the plastic indeed does form a high gloss and become slick).

Look, bottom line, usability prevails over any minor aesthetic issue. You might be fine compromising usability for flush knobs, but I personally wish to prevent any margin of error.

BTW, just received my knobs, quite good, really doesn't sit that much higher than some of the stock knobs that don't sit flush on a Rane 57 mixer (there are a few on that mixer). They feel great, are chunkier than the stock but not too bad that it will impeded your operation of the EQ section, and having them colour coded is excellent for me so that I can quickly see where each section is in low lighting.

[dookiex]

Heres the knobs i put on..


http://www.flickr.com/photos/74236719@N05/6689994823


http://www.flickr.com/photos/74236719@N05/6689992831

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74236719@N05/6689990993

I like those, those are preferable to the plastic knobs that khemfusion was using because these knobs don't wear out and have grip.

I'm wondering if any of the rubberized Vestax knobs fits onto the Twitch.