Vestax Traktor Certified Mixer coming at NAMM?

[oneapemob]

Yep, if they do have one almost ready to be launched (at the point where they send some to top dj for reviews), i'm pretty sure it's going to be a 2 channel mixer.

But price wise, i doubt it is going to be less than 700/800 $, vestax's top of the line mixers are expensive (at least you get what you pay for), and i don't believe that they'd make a prosumer mixer with traktor scratch certification.
That i hope means a mixer with post fader fx loop, nice midi controls, and it'd be great that the sound card be 6x6 and not 4x4 like in the pioneer thingy.

And i can guess that they are waiting for rane to show their cards with this new ttm they are cooking before releasing even a teaser.

[Otacon]

im definitely keeping my eye out for this biachhh

[TreTuna]

They have to do something to compete with the new Rane Sixty-Two! That mixer is freaking dope... Almost makes me want to switch to Serato just for that..... Buuuuuuuut... Nah.. I have my faith in Vestax! Love my PMC-08Pro.. but would definitely trade it in for a Traktor certified mixer from Vestax!

[Karlos Santos]

Love my PMC-08Pro.. but would definitely trade it in for a Traktor certified mixer from Vestax!

Thats were my money is... We have been discussing this topic (me and some NI friends) for years. The PMC-08 was rumoured to be be getting Certified a looooong time ago.

It beggars belief that no company has yet thought "wait a minute Traktor SCRATCH Pro is out selling Serato all over the world but there is no decent Certified Scratch mixer available, lets make one"

Theres the 3 Denons, the Pioneer and the old Korgs but none are scratch mixers and yet in all the NI vids with Craze and Unkut etc they do not use any of those mixers they use their own with an Audio 8/10.

Sure the soundcards are great but there has to be a huge market for Certified 'scratch' mixers . It just doesnt make sense that Vestax or Ecler have not done this yet (Ecler havent updated there shit in years?).

Maybe the problem has been the thorny issue of getting Certification from NI.

Lets hope Vestax have got it and really come up with the goods cus a Certified mixer is a joy to use. The A4/6/8/10 are great but id rather not use one.

[guiltyblade]

I know we are talking about the Vestax mixer, but I just looked on the pioneer site and it looks like they are clearing out DJM-T1. from 1600 to 999. 35% reduction. Figured I might share to my DJTT folks who were considering it but it being too expensive to buy.... these maybe more tempting..

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...rollers/DJM-T1

[rdej47]

As much as I'd love a solid 2 channel scratch mixer (Sold my Rane TTM56s, been missing it ever since) like a DJM T1, it just misses the mark in so many ways. Bad control of the sample players, difficult volume and filter control, double shift layer (too complex), poor loop setup and poor channel faders. An X1 and scratch mixer is better.

The biggest problem with All in one mixer units like that is your stuck with the same controls while the software functions grow. Good luck controlling the upcoming remix decks with quad shift layers on the T1. I guess my point is get the essentials right (loop control, quick browsing/loading, FX) keep it clean, and leave more advanced controls to dedicated midi controllers (X1, F1). I'd love to see what Vestax has to offer though.

[Karlos Santos]

That^^

Come on Vestax. This has been on the cards for years now. Just make a straight up scratch mixer with an 8 channel soundcard (which is one of the stipulations for Certification) and leave off all the bells and whistles.

[rdej47]

That^^

Come on Vestax. This has been on the cards for years now. Just make a straight up scratch mixer with an 8 channel soundcard (which is one of the stipulations for Certification) and leave off all the bells and whistles.

If Vestax made a 2 channel mixer (i'd love sample control but i'd be willing to scrap it for efficient layout) that had the capabilities to do audio pre fader so that you could route and record into Ableton the Bridge style, i'd love that. I have this setup running with an audio 8 dj and DJM 900 but the volumes low for some reason on recordings.

Pioneer sort of shot themselves in the foot with the T1. They launched it at way too high of a price with the sample controls seemingly being an afterthought, now the price has dropped to where it should've launched but with the remix decks on the horizon, it doesn't make sense to buy a T1. You buy it with the risk of it being outdated quickly by a T2 release (all speculation) or getting it with tacked on support for Traktor's future upgrades.

[Cybertrash]

To be honest, it seems to me that NI's apparent unwillingess to certify third-party mixers may be an obstacle as well...

[oneapemob]

If it needs to have an 8 channels soundcard how come the T1 was certified ?

Well never mind that question, i'd like pioneer to answer me this, how come the follow up from one of the best scratch mixer (909), that had everything for it minus the soundcard (and a traktor or serato cert.) is priced so much more than said "ancestor". When the supposed "new hottie" cannot do half of what the previous one could.
Because even at 1000 $ it's still a ripoff for a supposedly professional top of the game mixer :
fx? in traktor, pre faders, no fx send return
want to use loop recorder, in traktor, pre faders, still no send return.
etc...
Oh great cue points and loops.... N.i. were really ill advised to go for pioneer's 1800 $ train to the past mixer.

What would have been nice is a korg zero 2, or korg zero 4.0, that, is a mixer that could be great if it was well planned (like go for usb 2.0, innofader xfader).

Comme on Vestax we're waiting here

Because i think native instruments is really missing in this department, i'm sure that half of the people that went with serato went because of the rane 57. Beast of a mixer, great for scratch, great all around mixer, great build quality, ease of use, well laid out, and of course a "standard" now.