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    1 bar = 4 beats

    Song A has a 16 bar chorus. Song B has a 16 bar intro and after the intro, the vocals begin. Mix Song B's intro into Song A's chorus. As soon as the chorus on song A ends, song B's vocals begin right away. It's called song structure.

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    Thanks guys

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    Thats what i need to learn. The bars, i just play both tracks same time lol, start turning nobs. Then move the slider over so one song plays.. I need to understand the bars more clearly. For smooth transitions. More practice i suppose. My mixes don't make me dance. Graghh

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    sound like you boys need some introductory music theory. pick up a book on it, and pay particular attention to the parts on time signatures, rhythm, and anything to do with beats, bars or counting. everything these guys have told you is correct, but sometimes it helps to have that 20 pages of discussion on a specific point. also, a lot of those books come with cds with practice exercises which will help you determine time signatures (not so important for the genres you discuss) and rhythm or beat structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExTrCt. View Post
    Thats what i need to learn. The bars, i just play both tracks same time lol, start turning nobs. Then move the slider over so one song plays.. I need to understand the bars more clearly. For smooth transitions. More practice i suppose. My mixes don't make me dance. Graghh

    Always know the bars you're playing tracks in. Otherwise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirReal View Post
    Always know the bars you're playing tracks in. Otherwise...
    Otherwise....it might be gay bars?

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    Its not so much knowing music theory, you don't need to know scales or notes and you don't need to know time signatures because everything is going to be 4/4. You need to know how to count, know what a downbeat is, and to recognize phrases and know when to fade a song in and to fade out seemlessly and as smooth as possible and the only way is to practice, practice, practice. You will be able to feel it, you will be able to hear if you are in the middle of a phrase or at the top of the phrase. It takes time to learn but eventually it will click.

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    count to 4. practise
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    BTW serato and traktor counts the bars for you so each transition in the mix should be 4 to 8 bars apart. Depending on your equipment; I'd say learn how to use effects and buildups/breakdowns to make this sound even cleaner. If you have no other options you could always use the break effect to transition it's easy to make yourself or use vdj, serato, or traktors breaker.

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    Thanks Guys, this has helped me ALOT. I'm checking some tutorials and blogs on this subject with more detailed information, but I've read all the comments and starting to get it.

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