Here is my son rockin the midi controller

[Fatlimey]

That rocks! Made my day, especially the 2yo groupies.

[tekki]

Cool vid man!

[JeRK]

Thanks for posting... definetly cool to see even younger and younger people geting involved in music.

[eMDeeeMA]

thats really just too awesome. I was playing a party the other day with some kids there (private thing) and I ended up spending about 1 hour teaching the 10 year old boys how to beat juggle.

They loved it and could not get enough of the arcade buttons.

this can bring up a whole other debate.
is controllerism taking the prestige out of DJing and making it possible for just about anybody to mix songs? is on-the-fly live production the new marker in skill, rather than how well songs are key and beatmatched?

[Kaon]

this can bring up a whole other debate.
is controllerism taking the prestige out of DJing and making it possible for just about anybody to mix songs?

yes it is, but prestige is nothing compared to unlimited music potential

is on-the-fly live production the new marker in skill, rather than how well songs are key and beatmatched?

you can never be good at the former without the latter. it is all knowledge building upon itself, becoming more complex and more awesome

[eMDeeeMA]

you make a good point, but isn't it worse off for the people just getting into the scene starting with TPro?

It would be like getting your first guitar and finding out that it can finger the correct chords for you and keep you on rhythm. Starting with that guitar would prevent someone from really getting good at it.
I mean, sure you could play songs, but playing Jimi Hendrix's songs would be farrrrrrr less impressive after the guitar does more of the work for you.

So what I'm asking is: if anyone can automatically beatmatch, is the future of "DJing" moving from simply mixing music to actually creating complex mashups and songs on the fly live?

Where is the professional line drawn? Can a 6 year old beat juggling count as a pro, since TPro quantizes and matches the beats for him, thus producing the same sound as an elite DJ on the decks? I mean, if the end result is the same, why not pay good money to see a 6 year old play a show?

My guess is that people will start becoming far less impressed by typical DJing (as is happening already, every house party in college I go to has someone with a laptop and DJay or something. People are swarming him like "oooo he's a dj and can mix music" when in the back of my mind I am in stitches considering the complex blends, mashups, and creations I have made, and yet people are still impressed with beat matching.

While it is a critical fundamental skill to know, we need to take controllerism to the next level and leave the weekend warrior mixers in the dust. Start telling people that they shouldnt pay 5 bucks to go see a guy at a bar mix someone elses music. Ean has paved a road for us with Traktor Pro to make music that is original with endless possibilities.

No offense to the upcoming noobs still learning, keep at it. But for everyone else, stop supporting people who simply beatmatch songs with software. This is why the phrase "everyone's a dj" came to be recently.

[Kaon]

you make a good point, but isn't it worse off for the people just getting into the scene starting with TPro?

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Yea definately, it skips a few vital elements of beats tucture, key etc

So what I'm asking is: if anyone can automatically beatmatch, is the future of "DJing" moving from simply mixing music to actually creating complex mashups and songs on the fly live?

well it has to really, the nature of competition suggest you should always trying to outdo yourself and everyone else

Where is the professional line drawn? Can a 6 year old beat juggling count as a pro, since TPro quantizes and matches the beats for him, thus producing the same sound as an elite DJ on the decks? I mean, if the end result is the same, why not pay good money to see a 6 year old play a show?

profession is really wetha you can make a job out of it or not. which comes down to marketability/demand. while a 6 year old DJing live would have mad novelty value, i dont think there would be such a huge market for it heh.

My guess is that people will start becoming far less impressed by typical DJing (as is happening already, every house party in college I go to has someone with a laptop and DJay or something. People are swarming him like "oooo he's a dj and can mix music" when in the back of my mind I am in stitches considering the complex blends, mashups, and creations I have made, and yet people are still impressed with beat matching.

i dont think this really applies to your average DJ tho, 99% of people watching a DJ dont even know beatmatching is, all they see is a person making music play loud

No offense to the upcoming noobs still learning, keep at it. But for everyone else, stop supporting people who simply beatmatch songs with software. This is why the phrase "everyone's a dj" came to be recently.

i think theres still something to beatmatching, cdjs/vinyl etc. all the gigs i see are still using this and still blowing my mind with wat they can do. its a whole other world when you have to be creative within strict boundaries. digitalism gives us much more freedom, but how do you define skill when something can always be done better. thats like infinity plus one is still infinity

[silver fox]

So what I'm asking is: if anyone can automatically beatmatch, is the future of "DJing" moving from simply mixing music to actually creating complex mashups and songs on the fly live?

short answer - yes

[midian]

short answer - yes

QFT

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[Kaon]

hahaha wats new