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    Default camelot key

    s there a site where I can download a club track according to its camelot key?

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    Quote Originally Posted by petarsun View Post
    s there a site where I can download a club track according to its camelot key?
    Beatport lists the "proper" keys in the track details. That's as close as you can get but I don't think you can search along that criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulianVeloso View Post
    what should i do to blend this key into another one?
    Actually listening to your music?

    Seriously, you can also take supporting software TOO far...
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    I have always felt that mixing in key isn't necessary. There are other factors that will make mixing in key sound horrible, like melody, instrumentation and simply 2 songs that may be in the same key that just don't sound good together. I have always gone by drum beats and bpm and how it sounds by ear.

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    btw. you can doubleclick on the note in VDJ then it switches to the numbers-system you know from the camelot wheel ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj matt blaze View Post
    I have always felt that mixing in key isn't necessary. There are other factors that will make mixing in key sound horrible, like melody, instrumentation and simply 2 songs that may be in the same key that just don't sound good together. I have always gone by drum beats and bpm and how it sounds by ear.
    I really despise all the hype around it, I really don't think there is that much value in it and more often than not it seems that people who focus on using it and even going so far as to buy music based on what key it is in are so focused on key they forget about more important factors in song selection. Most of the time it doesn't even matter and they may pick a song to play next soley because it is in the "right key" when 20 other songs that would fit much better get overlooked just because they key is "wrong" even though for the type of mixing or song structure it is completely irrelevant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by petarsun View Post
    s there a site where I can download a club track according to its camelot key?
    Check out http://www.track-finder.com/

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    I think mixing in key is a very, very useful tool and can make your sets sound really clean. Albeit, its at the bottom of my list of importance when choosing my next song.

    The fact is, most dance music has a very minimal intro MADE for mixing. It'll either have no melody or very little melody at all, so in fact, the key of the song you're mixing into doesn't even matter. If a song does start off with a melody though, then I find that those are the best times to use the camelot wheel.

    Just don't let the wheel ever limit you, and don't feel like your going to be a bad DJ if you don't follow it with every mix. That's complete nonsense right there.

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    I also wonder, what about tracks that are not the exact same BPM ?

    Changing the pitch on one of the two tracks will change its key, unless you activate the "key mode" on Traktor or "Master tempo" on CDJs.

    And by activating these modes, you decrease the quality of the audio going out right ? So you would decrease the audio quality just to have matching keys ? That's silly.

    Therefore, mixing in key is only viable when 2 tracks are on the same bpm ? Well, that's some heavy limitation here.

    I don't think i'll ever bother about this, and just play what sounds good to me.

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