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    This is a never ending debate it will go on for centuries. It really comes down to what you the person is using the "computer" for. If you want the most epic l337 gaming computer go with a customized pc. Decide what you want your computer for and go pick one.

    If you are like me and want a laptop only for music production / internet surf. Then you can buy a macbook and start dj'ing right when you un package it from the box. You can literally buy a macbook pro and mixer go to your gigg. un package it all and start a party within minutes. Mac users only get Mac applications though and this eats at people.

    Windows you can download any 3rd party applications which makes it nice. You have more at your finger tips.
    I agree with what has been posted above. I've had zero crashes on my MBP. They always let you know on software updates. Its quick & safe. No viruses, no latency. Internet is smooth. I personally will never go back to a windows operating system i'm in love with this .

    Thank you jesus for providing osx to the world XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by hola amigos View Post
    This is a never ending debate it will go on for centuries. It really comes down to what you the person is using the "computer" for. If you want the most epic l337 gaming computer go with a customized pc. Decide what you want your computer for and go pick one.

    If you are like me and want a laptop only for music production / internet surf. Then you can buy a macbook and start dj'ing right when you un package it from the box. You can literally buy a macbook pro and mixer go to your gigg. un package it all and start a party within minutes. Mac users only get Mac applications though and this eats at people.

    Windows you can download any 3rd party applications which makes it nice. You have more at your finger tips.
    I agree with what has been posted above. I've had zero crashes on my MBP. They always let you know on software updates. Its quick & safe. No viruses, no latency. Internet is smooth. I personally will never go back to a windows operating system i'm in love with this .

    Thank you jesus for providing osx to the world XD
    100%.

    Amen!
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    Conversely I run a Dell with Win 7, play out 3 times a month, never maintain it, run everything from the same partition and it's never given me any problems.

    Computers are computers - buy a Mac if you want, buy a PC if you want, it really doesn't matter.
    Last edited by tekki; 10-12-2012 at 03:56 AM. Reason: Yes I edited it. Mind your language.

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    hi been a Mac user for 12 years and a vj for 10 years ive had hdd go done at drum and bass gigs and mobul8 crash, at one point I've had 3 laptops ( 2 powerbooks and an ibook ) going at my gigs all playing stuff.. towards the end ive just used an imac 20" and a dvd x 2..
    i find osx runs ok but Java is a pain...
    i would say use mac and an ssd so the vibrations wont nack the hdd
    hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Bastard View Post
    Conversely I run a Dell with Win 7, play out 3 times a month, never maintain it, run everything from the same partition and it's never given me any problems.

    Computers are computers - buy a Mac if you want, buy a PC if you want, it really doesn't matter.
    Gotta disagree with ya there.

    I have been on Windows since 95....MCSE....blah blah.

    5 years ago I got a Mac....and it has changed my outlook on computers.

    I see it like Serato and Traktor. Serato is for DJ's who want to mix externally and use Timecode (generally).
    Traktor is more for someone that is wanting more and wants to use Midi Controllers etc. It just seems more able to satusfy more needs.

    So to me, a Mac is like Serato. For someone that wants a work horse without much frills and doodaa's.
    A Windows PC is like Traktor. It is more than capable and is for a wider range audience. You can have it barebones for DJing or fully kitted for everyday work. It can be tweaked and needs a bit more looking after than a Mac, in terms of updates ...AV scans....Drivers etc.

    If you are not a techy sort of person, that does not want to get under the hood of the machine, then a Mac will suit you to the T.

    if you like fiddling with Drivers and tweaking your machine and playing games etc, then a Windows PC is for you.

    Just my opinion.



    This is why I agree with hola amigos, cuz you need to decide what category you fall into and buy accordingly.

    This is the exact same argument between IOS (iPhone) and Android OS.

    It depends what you want the device for and how savvy you are with tech.
    Last edited by tekki; 10-12-2012 at 03:58 AM.
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    Yeah, MCITP, Mac, former hackbook and linux box owner here, I have no idea what the hell you lot are on about, I've had loads of Windows laptops and never had any problems except for that caused by 3rd party hardware/software, something not unique to MS. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with either platform, don't drink the koolaid OP, use your head.

    I haven't had to tweak a driver or do anything with antivirus or anything since Win 7 either. Security Essentials runs all the time. Sarasin, you're spreading old and irrelevant FUD.

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    I think both can crash at any given moment. It all comes down to murphy's law. Then again, for some reason, Macs tend to run smoothly most of the time whereas a PC can run perfectly one day and then just die on you for no apparent reason.

    My experience is with pc's only though. I had an acer aspire 6930 which run perfectly until one day in which it started cpu spiking like mad, turning absolutely useless for dj'ing. Now I have an HP Envy which has 8gb RAM, 2.4 i5, and a few other cool stuff, and everything runs perfectly. I had a crash a few days ago in which traktor died out of nowhere. Could be software related, but I don't really know. For all that matters, for my everyday use, which means, Traktor, Lightroom and photoshop and only occasional gaming, I'd just get a Mac, but the price is just out of my league. I got my HP Envy for 800 bucks and is seriously the best choice I had when it boiled down to budget.
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    I was indoctrinated early as postscript fonts were mac only and they capitalized the graphic design market as well as offered a more cohesive experience using multiple applications at once. This is not the case today, windows does pretty good at this, and for the most part offers an ok computing experience. I've had trouble with both operating systems networking, windows more annoying, mac less useful.

    Out of the box installing DJ software I've not had to do fine tuning, it does what it is supposed to do to the limits of the software. My mac hasn't given me a kernel panic in years, same as the blue screen. It hasn't dropped traktor but at times my library has gone screwy, which restoring from an update has fixed. DJ wise I think my primary problem is software not the hardware it runs on. I am slightly more pro Mac biased, and free to admit it as I chuckled at the silly issues of it just doesn't work right for years with my windows friends, while having few issues myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padi_04 View Post
    Keeping this open as long as it doesn't derail from the OP into another Mac vs PC discussion.
    So much for that....

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    Macs don't have issues with malware so you don't need to worry about that......

    Russian antivirus vendor Doctor Web estimates that up to 550,000 Macs have been infected thus far, with over half of those located in the United States.
    http://venturebeat.com/2012/04/05/ap...shback-trojan/

    It's not like Apple would remove their "no viruses" claim from their own website or anything.....

    http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/25/im...flect-reality/

    And since when has the idea of releasing updates and fixes LESS frequently been a good thing? Windows updates are released on the 2nd Tuesday of every month. You can configure your computer to download and install them automatically if you like. Drivers and driver updates are also delivered via Windows Updates and you can have those automatically installed as well if you prefer.

    And you can DJ on a Mac with "no" latency? None? Really?

    Mac users tend to exaggerate every problem with Windows PCs, even making some up, while downplaying or simply lying about issues that can affect Macs. "Macs never crash", "Macs can't get viruses or malware", "Macs don't need updates", "you can DJ with zero latency on a Mac" and all this fucking nonsense, lol.

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