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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle View Post
    Make sure the BOSE isn't doing any fancy digital processing to your audio, as this'll introduce latency into your master output and force you to mix entirely in your headphones.
    Those things are meant for home cinema. There's minimal DSP processing and even then it's a matter of a couple of milliseconds max.
    So latency shouldn't be a problem really. Just check your levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    Those things are meant for home cinema.
    Well, there's no requirement for home cinema audio systems to be low latency because video typically takes a lot longer to decode than audio. I've had them catch me out before, thought the OP should know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle View Post
    Well, there's no requirement for home cinema audio systems to be low latency because video typically takes a lot longer than audio. I've had them catch me out before.
    Wut? What do you mean? You mean the processing of the video? Because with the last 3-4 generations of panels that has gone down to very, very low. Take gaming for example. You're talking about something like 30ms from input to output, depending on the panel and the processing. Considering some home cinemas have considerable distance between the speakers, speed of sound also comes in the equation. So i believe that audio has to be low latency even with this kind of products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    You mean the processing of the video?
    Yeah, most a/v equipment has 'audio delay' settings buried in the preferences somewhere for this reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle View Post
    Yeah, most a/v equipment has 'audio delay' settings buried in the preferences somewhere for this reason.
    AFAIK bose doesn't use anything more than just an eq on most of their range except the ADAPTiQ stuff, which has phase and delay compensation in software. I still don't believe that would add so much latency that he could not do basic mixing (it's his first time, come on, do you think he's going to scratch and cuejuggle? :P)

    Also, isn't audio delay a function that can be applied to different speakers placed at different distances from the listener differently to make timing coherent between the speakers?
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    I'm not familiar with Bose a/v. I'm just saying I've used home theatre equipment that has added enough latency that has made it impossible to mix with one ear in, one ear out, that I've remedied this by changing the a/v to a source direct mode. This has happened on more than one occassion, and I thought it might be of use to the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal_pizzle View Post
    I'm not familiar with Bose a/v. I'm just saying I've used home theatre equipment that has added enough latency that has made it impossible to mix with one ear in, one ear out, that I've remedied this by changing the a/v to a source direct mode.
    I am because i have a system home and it's the third one i've had (not of the aforementioned adaptiq range tho, so i cannot comment on that)
    I know i can game perfectly on my old 40" samsung via hdmi with no seeable latency at all
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    Well he should be good to go then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester View Post
    i used mouse, keyboard and a creaky old desktop at my first parties mate. you will be fine
    (not too may controllers around back in the day)
    Suggestion: make it clear before you start that you have no responisbility whatsoever for the stereo. that way your ass is covered when the inevitable occurs. which it will.
    LOOOL...Same here. Remember Virtual Turntables? And PCDJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarasin View Post
    LOOOL...Same here. Remember Virtual Turntables? And PCDJ?

    Oh GAWD!

    hahahah I remember these...and also attempting to make my first tracks on dance eJay!
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