Warping live recorded tracks

[Patch]

If you think this variation is 'poor drumming' then I dont even know where to start with you.

That's not what I'm saying at all. Read this again, mate:

Swing, and poor drumming (by modern electronic music standards!) is not the same thing.

It's clear that you know more than me about funk drumming, but I do know what swing is. And as far as I can tell, the other instruments don't follow the swing of the drums (how could they? The other musicians can't guess/predict when the drummer is gonna hang back/play a hit early, right?) - so warping to the drum pattern is gonna not only destroy the swing in the drums, it's gonna throw the timing of the other instruments off, too.

When warping funk, you just have to use your ears and knowledge of musical structure, and place warp markers ONLY on the hits that DO land on a beat. That way, you retain the swing, and also maintain (some kind of) correct average BPM for mixing.

Some DJ's are trying to get EVERY drum hit to line up in a transition - but, with funk (and, even in some (actually, LOTS of) D n' B), you just can't do that.

Some DJ's are just gonna have to understand, that sometimes, when you're mixing tracks with a non-standard drum pattern, SOME of the snares (and sometimes kicks) are not gonna line up. If you've warped it right/beat-gridded it right, the songs are still beat-matched - but you ARE gonna hear some double hits.

[feedbackl00p]

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[Patch]

Agreed.

And I still want to hear an example of a funk song that's been warped to fit a rigid 4/4 time signature...

[MyNameIsBROON]

Something that helped me when learning was to try to just warp by phrases…

ei. the intro is say 16 bars… your gonna put a warp marker on the first downbeat and right at the first downbeat of the next phrase…. well drag that to the 17 bar mark and that phrase is perfectly in sync… then keep going forward…

Sometimes i still use this method… when tracks are too hard to warp on their own…

Practicing with small samples like a bar can really get you good at understanding how the markers work…

[MyNameIsBROON]

Try warping in phrases to get used to it… thats how i taught myself...

[Dohjo]

Nice nice. Sounds like a good idea.