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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojaxx View Post
    And, just to take it back to my first reply in the thread, I've just bought a lot of those tracks.

    Guess the artists have Shazam to thank for those few extra pennies of royalties today.
    You win this thread, well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwal View Post
    You win this thread, well played.
    It's not a competition...

    I just get a bit frustrated when DJs get precious about keeping music to themselves. I'm not a producer myself, but I know a few personally, and I know how basically impossible it is for them to make any kind of living from music sales.

    The irony being, of course, is that means that the only way most of them can live is by doing DJ sets, meaning less work out there for us non-producer DJs...

    Now, there is the question of just how many uncleared samples there are in that tracklist, and exactly how fair that is to the ORIGINAL artists, but that's a whole other discussion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojaxx View Post
    It's not a competition...

    I just get a bit frustrated when DJs get precious about keeping music to themselves. I'm not a producer myself, but I know a few personally, and I know how basically impossible it is for them to make any kind of living from music sales.

    The irony being, of course, is that means that the only way most of them can live is by doing DJ sets, meaning less work out there for us non-producer DJs...

    Now, there is the question of just how many uncleared samples there are in that tracklist, and exactly how fair that is to the ORIGINAL artists, but that's a whole other discussion...
    I know I know, but I do agree. I used to be that guy in the OP because nobody knew how to find good music around me.. After getting into production I realized that I really wanted to support the artists I played so I would put out a tracklist no matter what. Just keep digging, you can surprise yourself with what is out there. Hell, I would go as far as create some interesting mash ups to personally use if you have a hard time producing and finding music on your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwal View Post
    As a DJ you should always know where to find good music.. I am in a real similar situation as you in my local scene but I got over myself and just dug deeper. This eventually forced me to start producing because the reality of the matter is, if you aren't producing, making it big as a DJ will be very hard for you unless you really manage to get into the right crowd or you find some genius way to market yourself.
    He went one f***ing deeper!!!

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    Bangin mix, dude.

    Edit: way ass bangin mix dude! Downloaded and added to iPOD. You have mad skills as a selector. I'd say this: you only keep what you give away. Innovate and keep going this direction and you have nothing to worry about.
    Last edited by HigherFi; 01-08-2014 at 10:25 AM.

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    Agreed. Loved that mix and it's not even the style I mix. Great stuff.

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    Mojaxx,

    You've missed the point of the OP. Yeah, anyone can use Shazam, but not everyone thinks to, and some tracks in my mixes can't be found via Shazam. So, the incentive is that people can find out what those tracks are provided that they share my sets. I've asked a number of times now whether this is a good strategy or not, and despite your posts, you still haven't answered the question. You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojaxx
    If your tracklist is the ONLY thing you have going for you, you're screwed. It's as much about the mix itself, the programming, the blend.
    Now, this is uncharitable to me, and it tells me that either (1) your reading comprehension is suspect or (2) you didn't read what I wrote. I made things pretty clear earlier on in the thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by biutze
    In short, the tracks I have are, in part, what's getting me booked.
    So your comment fails to grapple with what I said. Stop responding to what you think I write and respond to what I actually have to say. That's how a discussion works. Otherwise, you're just derailing the thread and probably trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojaxx View Post
    I just get a bit frustrated when DJs get precious about keeping music to themselves. I'm not a producer myself, but I know a few personally, and I know how basically impossible it is for them to make any kind of living from music sales.
    Again, you didn't read what I wrote. I never said I keep music to myself. I made it very clear that I share my music with others. Here's what I said in the OP:

    Quote Originally Posted by biutze
    I buy my music, tell my friends about producers I'm fond of, share their stuff on Soundcloud, so on and so forth. So it's not like I'm wholly selfish, as you seem to think, but I am cautious.
    So your frustration, as far as this thread is concerned, is based on attacking a straw man. Calm down. Take the time to thoroughly read and process what I'm actually writing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kwal View Post
    I know I know, but I do agree. I used to be that guy in the OP because nobody knew how to find good music around me.. After getting into production I realized that I really wanted to support the artists I played so I would put out a tracklist no matter what. Just keep digging, you can surprise yourself with what is out there.
    I support the artists I play. I made this very clear in the OP. I dig a lot and, frankly, I think it's uncharitable to assume that I don't dig or that I don't dig as much as I should be. For future reference, I don't think it'd be a good idea to respond to Mojaxx's responses to my posts, because he's repeatedly misunderstood what I've had to say. I suspect he's just trolling as he's having a lot of difficulty understanding very basic English.

    Quote Originally Posted by HigherFi View Post
    Bangin mix, dude.

    Edit: way ass bangin mix dude! Downloaded and added to iPOD. You have mad skills as a selector. I'd say this: you only keep what you give away. Innovate and keep going this direction and you have nothing to worry about.
    Thanks, Higherfi. I appreciate the kind words.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdownesbaird View Post
    Agreed. Loved that mix and it's not even the style I mix. Great stuff.
    Thanks, jdownesbaird. Glad you enjoyed it.

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    I agree with Mojaxx. A Djs tracklist is not their defining characteristic. Mojaxx also proved that you can figure out many of the tracks with a little skill and some knowledge. There are literally hundreds of articles out there on how to market yourself, obsessing over tracklists and whining when people offer a different point of view isn't the way. If you want to look at someone who does do a good job of promoting what they do - why not go to youtube and search for Mojaxx - you might learn something
    Beats By Dre is like audio flu for your balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiTTTen View Post
    A Djs tracklist is not their defining characteristic.
    I never said otherwise, nor did I imply it.

    Quote Originally Posted by smiTTTen
    Mojaxx also proved that you can figure out many of the tracks with a little skill and some knowledge.
    I already know that many of my tracks can be found via Shazam, so again, I never said otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by smiTTTen
    There are literally hundreds of articles out there on how to market yourself,
    Indeed, and not only am I aware of them, but I'm asking, per the OP, if my strategy is a good one, which you nor Mojaxx have responded to, by the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by smiTTTen
    obsessing over tracklists and whining when people offer a different point of view isn't the way.
    No one here is "obsessing and whining when people offer a different point of view." Kindly be more charitable to what I've written heretofore.

    Quote Originally Posted by smiTTTen
    If you want to look at someone who does do a good job of promoting what they do - why not go to youtube and search for Mojaxx - you might learn something
    Your suggestion is noted and appreciated, but you still haven't answered my question in the OP.

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    Where did I leave the hammer...
    Beats By Dre is like audio flu for your balls.

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