Windows 8 is sh1t!!!

**Sambo** · 10-07-2014, 12:02 PM

The envy laptops are packing some serious girth in those metal pants. But yeah, my Lenovo came with Windows 8 and it literally cannot be removed without replacing the hard drive and the BIOS due to a bug Got my ass fucked by Lenovo on that. Fortunately, bloat ware took the best part of 5 minutes to remove and I've never had a problem since.

**SlvrDragon50** · 10-07-2014, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Patch

Not when your machine doesn't come with recovery discs, and that machine is CRAMMED with bloatware.

The recovery disks are probably on the computer in the form of an ISO.

And bloatware doesn't affect reformat THAT much. I've done it so many times.

**teknik1200** · 10-07-2014, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by nem0nic

Sounds alot more like HP is sh1t, and Windows is just along for the ride.

this, i built and installed my own win 8.1 and there's no bloatware anywhere to be found on the machine.

**Patch** · 10-07-2014, 02:52 PM

Gonna try the software that nem0nic mentioned...

**Jester** · 10-07-2014, 07:47 PM

Ya patch, upgrade to win 7 pro asap. You may have to enable legacy mode in the bios to get it installed properly.

**daviedavedave** · 10-08-2014, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Sambo

The envy laptops are packing some serious girth in those metal pants. But yeah, my Lenovo came with Windows 8 and it literally cannot be removed without replacing the hard drive and the BIOS due to a bug Got my ass fucked by Lenovo on that. Fortunately, bloat ware took the best part of 5 minutes to remove and I've never had a problem since.

My Lenovo also came with a stupid amount of crapware. Irritating but removable.

**partylike1369** · 10-08-2014, 08:22 AM

You can use http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html to dig out the serial and then (i think) download a win8 iso from microsoft and install a clean version. I hope it works!

**Patch** · 10-08-2014, 08:59 AM

I have the serial that came with my machine - but there is a weird "rule" (MS/HP screwing the end user) that doesn't let you do a fresh install using the OEM serial number.

That's why I'll have to install using a "MS Generic" serial number (MS actually provides a list of these....), and after installing using that S/N, change the serial to the OEM one that is stored in the BIOS.

I've done a little research, and it seems this is the best way to get a fresh install on a machine that came with a pre-loaded OS and no recovery media.