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    Quote Originally Posted by ImNoDJ View Post
    This was my point. If you cant phrase the way you want, then youve chosen the wrong tracks.
    Or you're trying to force something that doesn't work.

    But, yes. Not playing a track you find boring is probably a good first step. Or editing it.

    People used to deal with tape players or pay a lot of money for dub plates....we can make edits for damn near free in Live Intro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    Or you're trying to force something that doesn't work.

    But, yes. Not playing a track you find boring is probably a good first step. Or editing it.

    People used to deal with tape players or pay a lot of money for dub plates....we can make edits for damn near free in Live Intro.
    I dont understand what point youre making. You have complete control over your record selection and phrasing.

    Why would you be subject to two records that dont blend well, when you have complete control over your selection?

    If you have to play top 40 bangerz then I can see your point.

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    If theres no dead zones when are you supposed to Jesus Pose

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    If you've got S4 the easiest way to eliminate dead zones in a track is to skip over them with cues. If it's an important part, it's usually repeated later on with full rhythmic accompaniment. Drop a cue there and hit that when the dead part starts, then go back to the earlier part of the track (once again with a cue). Make sure your grid is accurate. Record your edit in S4 and use that during the night. As a working club DJ I've got literally hundreds of these little quick edits - which along with my own remixes comprise most of my night.

    There is no need for a DAW. Traktor makes this whole process super easy right in S4.

    The other way (and I use this too during the night) is to run beat loops in decks 3&4 synced to the live track. I bring them in and out as needed - often as transitions between tracks. Traktor provides a bunch of these to choose from right in S4, but the ones I use most are recorded and looped from existing tracks.

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    Most of the time, I want to keep those in - they tend to build to a nice peak... the crowds seem to dig them just fine, but maybe it depends on the style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b ill View Post
    the easiest way to eliminate dead zones in a track is to skip over them with cues.
    ^^ I do this live but it's the same idea. If you don't care for the pacing of a track, just prepare it with a ton of cue points and jump around between them when you play it!
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    That really depends on the track...it's super-easy for it to just sound wrong.

    It's over pretty quick, so people likely don't notice...but if I'm familiar with the song, it bugs me.

    I'd rather run some drums under it or just not play that track.

    If you're wondering why I keep bemoaning modern techniques and questioning why I ever stopped playing vinyl....apart from keylock and sync (so I can be lazy), so am I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    That really depends on the track...it's super-easy for it to just sound wrong.

    It's over pretty quick, so people likely don't notice...but if I'm familiar with the song, it bugs me.

    I'd rather run some drums under it or just not play that track.

    If you're wondering why I keep bemoaning modern techniques and questioning why I ever stopped playing vinyl....apart from keylock and sync (so I can be lazy), so am I.
    I hear you dude, im never happy with either side of the digital / analog divide.

    On a side note, I bought a very cheap toolroom EDM comp, which was about 100 tracks for I think ten bucks. Its not my style by any means, but I was just interested in how its mixed. Only 5 tracks actually made it into my library though.

    Oh my god, EDM is DJing on easy mode. The buildups, drops, sweeps and drama in the track give you nearly unlimited transition spots, every track is the same tempo with very little swing.

    The fact that EDM DJs cant even mix this simple music without sync and quantise is mindblowing.

    Im pretty confident I could teach a complete beginner using these tools to fool an EDM crowd within a day if they were already a fan of the music.

    Im not sure this is any worse than the candy raver stuff back in the day tbh.

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    Yeah....there's a reason their sets are all the same. There's no soul in any of the tracks and the only thing that matters is that "sick drop, bro" moment every 4 minutes or so.

    It's everything that went wrong with epic trance on stupid pills.

    As for the analog/digital divide....I'm firmly on the side that digital is technically and mathematically superior. Not equal, superior. But either done well can sound amazing. As for what I want to play on....I think I've changed my mind 4 times in the last week as to whether I want to build a console for my 1200s and buy an A10 or sell them. And, I keep wanting to plug my Maschine in and play with it when I DJ, but I just keep having too much fun without it.

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    This was taught to me by a pro many years ago...Tips for good mixing.

    -Use songs with drum machines that work with eachother.
    -Try to use the key as a guideline for your mixing.
    -Use loops to make your transitions longer (not applicable if you are making cuts)

    ride those eq's when your mixing!

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