The "club standard" CDJ. Lack of respect for controllerists. Why?

[iambiggles]

Continential Europe and the UK are WHOLE different kettles of fish dude. Over there, you actually have dedicated trance/house superclubs and stuff like that... like Berghain etc. And you have proper festivals like Tomorrowland. The UK is practically a joke in comparison lol.

You're kidding right?

I live just outside of Brighton club there and London - the amount of club nights playing decent music is amazing! Sure there are a bunch playing more mainstream stuff, but I can go out most nights of the week and find somewhere playing Deep House, Nu-Disco, Proper Underground House or techno. I don't know where you are (didn't you say Birmingham or somewhere midlandsish?), but I feel really sorry for you!

[iambiggles]

I agree with all that. For me the music should do the talking, be pretty close to how it was intended, and mixed with other good music. House music is all about the subtleties to me.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This - 100%. Some of the best sets I've ever heard were pretty much a-b mixing with little or no FX. Think Larry Levan, David Mancuso, Danny Tenaglia etc etc (sure, these guys used reel to reel and some clever edits, but it was basically a-b mixing). These guys are legends because the KNOW the music and their crowd, not by over-reliance on FX, filters and doing too much fucking with the music - Rotary mixer and an Isolater was pretty much it. (although the Isolater can be horribly overdone too.... ) Some of the best stuff in the UK currently is just 2 or 3 CDJ's or TT's and a very knowledgable DJ (and crowd).

[backtothefront]

Continential Europe and the UK are WHOLE different kettles of fish dude. Over there, you actually have dedicated trance/house superclubs and stuff like that... like Berghain etc. And you have proper festivals like Tomorrowland. The UK is practically a joke in comparison lol.

Not sure what genres you're in to and where you're located in the UK MDC, but I beg to differ, the UK is and has always had a thriving underground dance music scene - we embraced electronic music and gave the world all forms of dance music, let's not forget that

If you want big, well known clubs, one for a start is Fabric, even Ministry Of Sound I'd say. But the best stuff is the small, underground places, bubbling up all over the UK, just need to get involved. And in terms of festivals, there's a huge choice of dance music festival all over the country.

I really can't fathom out your post, there are 100's of nights going on all over, both urban and countryside. I live in the sticks and there are loads of free parties tucked out the way plus a v popular D&B night for example, bringing down the likes of Hazard, N.Blackmarket, Fabio, Majestic... etc etc.

[iambiggles]

Not sure what genres you're in to and where you're located in the UK MDC, but I beg to differ, the UK is and has always had a thriving underground dance music scene - we embraced electronic music and gave the world all forms of dance music, let's not forget that

If you want big, well known clubs, one for a start is Fabric, even Ministry Of Sound I'd say. But the best stuff is the small, underground places, bubbling up all over the UK, just need to get involved. And in terms of festivals, there's a huge choice of dance music festival all over the country.

I really can't fathom out your post, there are 100's of nights going on all over, both urban and countryside. I live in the sticks and there are loads of free parties tucked out the way plus a v popular D&B night for example, bringing down the likes of Hazard, N.Blackmarket, Fabio, Majestic... etc etc.

Exactly - I sometimes wonder (from some of his posts) if we even live in the same country... And lets not forget, if there isn't something near you - do it yourself!!

[Vermilion]

The UK is practically a joke in comparison lol.

Man this just makes me sad. You're in Derby, right? I don't know what music you're in to but get out one weekend and head somewhere new. Nottingham has some great nights at places like Stealth, Rescue Rooms, Rock City, Gatecrasher... Alternatively there's Leicester with Sophbeck, Rockafellas, Epsilon... London's also really not that far from Derby, just catch the first train back at kick out time!

Also check out the Midlands events page on RA and see if you can find something.

[Flash101uk]

Man this just makes me sad. You're in Derby, right? I don't know what music you're in to but get out one weekend and head somewhere new. Nottingham has some great nights at places like Stealth, Rescue Rooms, Rock City, Gatecrasher... Alternatively there's Leicester with Sophbeck, Rockafellas, Epsilon... London's also really not that far from Derby, just catch the first train back at kick out time!

Also check out the Midlands events page on RA and see if you can find something.

I live in Derby, the underground has taken off since interface dropped out. Theres literally 2 or 3 underground nights every weekend for whatever youre interested in. Loads of house and dnb, plus trance nights are gathering quite the following.
Notts, as you rightly say, is also a hot-bed of underground talent.

@mdcdesign: If you cant find anything youre not looking hard enough or youre a jaded old cynic that thinks underground nights should come to them.

[mdcdesign]

Man this just makes me sad. You're in Derby, right? I don't know what music you're in to but get out one weekend and head somewhere new. Nottingham has some great nights at places like Stealth, Rescue Rooms, Rock City, Gatecrasher... Alternatively there's Leicester with Sophbeck, Rockafellas, Epsilon... London's also really not that far from Derby, just catch the first train back at kick out time!

Also check out the Midlands events page on RA and see if you can find something.

Rescue Rooms are pretty sick, I'll admit... the first place I've been to in a LONG while which still spins vinyl on a regular basis

[iambiggles]

Rescue Rooms are pretty sick, I'll admit... the first place I've been to in a LONG while which still spins vinyl on a regular basis

hold on! you're stating this as a plus? i thought you were the guy that "never saw CDJ's in any club I go to and nobody I know used them (or somesuch comment)", never mind 1200's?

I think the previous few posts explains this a little - you evidently dont go to many (if any) clubs. LOL

[mdcdesign]

hold on! you're stating this as a plus? i thought you were the guy that "never saw CDJ's in any club I go to and nobody I know used them (or somesuch comment)", never mind 1200's?

I think the previous few posts explains this a little - you evidently dont go to many (if any) clubs. LOL

I don't see the point of CDJs, whereas vinyl actually offers a different feel & experience to MIDI control. And no, I don't go to many clubs unfortunately! I'm always working

[DubluW]

I don't see the point of CDJs, whereas vinyl actually offers a different feel & experience to MIDI control. And no, I don't go to many clubs unfortunately! I'm always working

How can you say the UK scene is a joke, then say you don't actually go to a lot of clubs anyway?!?!?!?!

I think the UK has, hands down, the most varied and interesting club culture throughout the world!

I think London has some of the best going with Egg, pacha, MOS, Fabric and Cable to name but a few big hitters, all with varied nights within their respective Genre's. Hell, even the clubs that closed down were awesome (R.I.P The End) That's without even touching places like Shoreditch, camden and clapham for all the smaller venues. Boiler room was made here!!!! I live in london, so that's my speciality, but not to forget gatecrasher, Cream etc in Liverpool/Birmingham.

And the festivals. We kick ass at festivals, and have acts from the UK travelling worldwide at other festivals and Ibiza etc. I will see Irration steppas at outlook if it kills me someday!