Best DJ setup for Ableton ?

[Coldfuzion]

Thanks guys, i will give decadance a try : )
My setup is basically a launchpad and a Nanokontrol. It is nice but i think my ableton config is really limited compared to someone with Traktor... My aim is to use it as a real DJ, not to create things live. , I use my launchpad as an effect controller on mode User 2( with some effextrix cfg, looper, and beat repeat on it).. and my nanokontrol controls the volume controls, and some more effects. I launch the clips with my scene 1 mode on my launchpad.. but i really feel i miss something.
That's why i was asking for help , i will try decadance

From what I have heard decadence is like a slightly non-polished version of Traktor.

[tyfurious]

From what I have heard decadence is like a slightly non-polished version of Traktor.

Yea, it's pretty good, although it's very lacking in effects... Although if used as a VST it's no problem.

[deevey]

I just "finished" my fairly comfortable DJ Layout for Ableton .. I'm using an APC40 BTW.

By comfortable I mean no layer switching or needing my head stuck in my laptop all night .. pretty much straight on DJ'ing plus the ability to mash things up a lil with sample decks and FX switching on the xfader pretty intuitively.

4 decks / 4 sample & FX decks (mirrored from main) to returns for EQ.

Mirrored FX all channels
EQ on returns 1-4

FX on one knob Macros
Metalize, Beat repeat, Gater, Reverb, Pitcher, Filter, Phaser, Fade to Grey

The way its set up its pretty easy to sample / play loops on x-fade between the "Live" and Rec sample channels.

Maybe it'll inspire I dunno.

screeny attached.

[Bassline Brine]

I honestly can't get my head around DJing with Ableton. Maybe it's just me. I really enjoy using Ableton as a DAW, and the original purpose of buying it was watching videos on how people use it as both a DAW and live control / DJing.

I can see in the future potentially wanting to route the signals through ableton for the support, or trying to kick up "the bridge" for some interesting combinations, but it's ultimate customization almost seems limiting to me. Which is backwards, I know, but it's almost like having so many choices, you don't know where to start.

I guess I just prefer the more on the fly aspect of mixing two tracks without a rediculous amount of prep work involved to get things "just right" for me. Call me a perfectionist when it comes to chopping tracks with Ableton, but that's what bugs me the most. I find myself often trying to do things that would be simple using Serato or Traktor, but is innately complicated with Ableton.

Ableton is a great tool, but for a lot of instances, I really think the primary built DVS software really takes the cake. (And this is just within my personal experience, I realize everyone has a different perspective).

[Nesquigs]

^^ exactly how i feel

[Quiggers]

I use ableton with a launch pad and a bcr2000, i dont just play tracks with it, i prepare custom edits, spreading a track over 3 channels and assigning it to a side of a cross fader,
each side of the x-fader has an eq3 set for filter sweeps and kills, each channel has a beat repeat, redux and i've a pitched delay on a send and reverb on another, i then have a hi pass and low pass on the master as well as a catchall master limiter.

All the tracks are prepared in advance, so while the set isnt planned, random requests aren't do-able, i tried it a few times and no doest go well, als o i run audio, every midi track during a re-edit is frozen and flattened. I use the clip launch to give the set some degree of automation, ie if a clip has looped for 32 bars, chances are i've taken my eye of it so either stop it or launch the next clip,

the routing goes like this 3 audio channels containing parts to one buss channel to a side of the x-fader to master out. both sides of the x-fader contain the same audio info so that my set list is fixed but the order i play them is completely flexible and i can add elements of one track to another. One thing to watch for is harmonic clashes.

this is fine for special events but for regular djing i use traktor duo with a template i made for the launch pad and some keymapping, allows a more spurr of the moment vibe.