torq 1.5

[BentoSan]

I edited my post, but just to clarify.. setting multiple beat-grids is not the same as warping / time-stretching via Z-Plane. You always have a jump or change in tempo with multiple beat-grids.

If you're syncing and quantization is enable you probably won't notice this jump in tempo much, but if the disparity in tempo change is large, you will notice. Torq is actually warping / stretching the music in time without audible glitching or sound quality loss.

You dont have a change in Tempo if you set it to sync with the master clock, or another deck with a solid tempo also if you have keylock on you wont hear a pitch change.

[Travis]

Yeah, I'm on the fence right now with the new Torq 1.5 and Traktor 3.4. Gonna give a few weeks worth of serious play time and experimentation on the new Torq before I decide on which one to stick with.

So far, I haven't been disappointed with 1.5. Traktor 3.4 runs solid as hell for me too. It all comes down to which one is gonna allow me to be more creative with my sets. Torq is winning that battle right now.

[BentoSan]

If you really need the whole Zplane thing you can run your tracks though Ableton before importing them into Traktor - That way you can do pitchchanges and stuff that wouldnt be possible otherwise.

[Travis]

You dont have a change in Tempo if you set it to sync with the master clock, or another deck with a solid tempo also if you have keylock on you wont hear a pitch change.

I don't think you're understanding the difference between Traktor's beat-grid system and the actual implementation of Torq's Z-Plane based anchoring (AKA, Ableton Live time stretching).

These two are nothing alike in their actual function. Not trying to fuel an argument of one is better then the other here Bento (that should be clear with research). I just don't want people coming in here getting the wrong idea about Torq's new anchoring system. It is better then what Traktor currently has implemented. Surely you wouldn't argue that Traktor's beat-grid system is better then what Ableton Live (now Torq) has implemented.

Also, why would I want the trouble of warping every track I get in Ableton just to get it to flow properly in my DJ software? Torq now does this for me in one shot (setting up anchors). I can also run Torq via Re-Wire in Live now with accurate midi-syncing that dynamically changes in Ableton as I DJ in Torq.

You have a slew of things to consider with a comparable Traktor / Live setup (3rd party software).

[DvlsAdvct]

If you can i havent worked it out lol - every time i set a new marker it replaces the first one i made. Then again i havent experiemented with this alot because i am mixing electronic music with constant tempos.

Uh... yeah... Bento, you can do this in T-Pro. Just set a new cue marker, store it, map it, and switch it to a Grid marker. *shrug* You might be mixing EDM but sometimes they do funky stuff with sample breaks and it's not exactly on tempo.

[BentoSan]

I know the difference i use both Traktor and Ableton live at the same time, i was merely explaining that the explination that you gave were incorrect and it was indeed possible to do what you explained.

I have allways recommended people use Abletons warping method for complex pitch changes.

What isnt possible in traktor is to change the pitch after the track is synced and keylocked when achieving the desired result you were speaking of.

[BentoSan]

Uh... yeah... Bento, you can do this in T-Pro. Just set a new cue marker, store it, map it, and switch it to a Grid marker.

I was probably hitting the autogrid button haha.

*shrug* You might be mixing EDM but sometimes they do funky stuff with sample breaks and it's not exactly on tempo.

If its a little bit of swing i leave it because i think part of the flavor of the song but if it goes way out multiple markers or passing it though ableton is the go ya.

[Travis]

I know the difference i use both Traktor and Ableton live at the same time, i was merely explaining that the explination that you gave were incorrect and it was indeed possible to do what you explained.

I have allways recommended people use Abletons warping method for complex pitch changes.

What isnt possible in traktor is to change the pitch after the track is synced and keylocked when achieving the desired result you were speaking of.

What explanation was incorrect? I was putting out a testament to the new time-stretching system built into Torq. You tried equating Traktors beat-grid system to it, this was an injustice as thats like comparing apples and oranges.

Torq's new anchoring system is far superior. The creative possibilities are huge.

[DvlsAdvct]

I was probably hitting the autogrid button haha.

ew.... autogrid

[DvlsAdvct]

What explanation was incorrect? I was putting out a testament to the new time-stretching system built into Torq. You tried equating Traktors beat-grid system to it, this was an injustice as thats like comparing apples and oranges.

Torq's new anchoring system is far superior. The creative possibilities are huge.

Travis... does Torq permanently edit the file, or is it only while it is playing?