Setting Up Midiyoke And Glovepie On Windows 7

[zestoi]

I'm thinking zestoi is right. It might be worth using LoopBe instead of Midiyoke

if i was right it was only by accident it would seem - as i meant to say loopMIDI

i use loopMIDI to create my virtual midi ports and have had no reason to connect ports together - which is what loopBE does by the looks of it?

i just create one loopMIDI port, make glovepie send data to it and make traktor read from it. so i'm actually confused where loopBE would actually be useful at all in this setup...

ah... loopBE also has a virtual midi driver as well as doing routing i guess... i'll still stick with loopMIDI as has caused me no issues at all atm and i have about 10 virtual ports created using it atm.

[fbonito]

if i was right it was only by accident it would seem - as i meant to say loopMIDI

i use loopMIDI to create my virtual midi ports and have had no reason to connect ports together - which is what loopBE does by the looks of it?

i just create one loopMIDI port, make glovepie send data to it and make traktor read from it. so i'm actually confused where loopBE would actually be useful at all in this setup...

ah... loopBE also has a virtual midi driver as well as doing routing i guess... i'll still stick with loopMIDI as has caused me no issues at all atm and i have about 10 virtual ports created using it atm.

well i have loopmidi and tonight i will try, the good thing about loopmidi is that is a "Virtual loopback MIDI cable for Windows XP up to Windows 7, 32 and 64 bit" so there is no compatibility issues...

just a quick not, how do you make glovepie to send data to a specific virtual midi driver?

i'm using Putzlowitsch's Vista MIDI Mapper Control Panel to do that, but sometimes it doesn't work well, for instance if i have midiyoke and configure to send data through loobe it still sends data throught midiyoke...

[zestoi]

just a quick not, how do you make glovepie to send data to a specific virtual midi driver?

i'm using Putzlowitsch's Vista MIDI Mapper Control Panel to do that, but sometimes it doesn't work well, for instance if i have midiyoke and configure to send data through loobe it still sends data throught midiyoke...

you have to select the device by index and not by name. these 2 glovepie lines will select device 8 but also display the device name in the debug area so you can see if you selected the right one or not:

   midi.DeviceOut = 8 // device number to use
   debug = midi.OutDevName // show device name in use

[fbonito]

hi, thanx,

tonight i will try it,

just one question,

how do i select by index?
what is devide8?
is there a script to chose the device in glovepie?

well... 3 questions after all ...

;-)

[extraclassic]

I'm sure loopmidi works fine and that's good to know but after testing loopBe for a few hours in total i see no reason to change.

As for Midi yoke....Well it stopped responding all of a sudden after about an hour on Windows 7 which is a no no for me.
Works fine on windows xp though. I've been routing Traktor into Reaper (via rearoute) while using glovepie and midiyoke at the same time in a live enviroment every week for the past year now without a hiccup

I will keep windows 7 installed on my destop pc but I'm sticking with xp on my dj laptop........If it aint broke

[zestoi]

hi, thanx,

tonight i will try it,

just one question,

how do i select by index?
what is devide8?
is there a script to chose the device in glovepie?

well... 3 questions after all ...

;-)

a line like:

midi.DeviceOut = 1

will select the first midi input port. i just found mine by trial and error before writing some code around the RtMidi lib. they're in the same order as you'll see when choosing a midi in port in the "bomes midi keyboard" or most other apps.

in my example "midi.DeviceOut = 8" just means my 8th device which in that case is "XYpad" (seems devices start at 1 and not 0 as i had assumed before)

it should also be possible to search through devices in glovepie looking for the name of a device to find its index, though i havent tried that.

... a few mins later of quick hacking ...

this script should work. put it at the top of your glovepie script and change "test" to whatever devicename you need. this will open a midi device out port by name:

var.DevName = "test"

if (var.Init == 0) then
   for var.Count = 0 to 20 do
       midi.DeviceOut = var.Count
       if (midi.OutDevName ~= var.DevName) then
          debug = "Selected: " + midi.OutDevName + " at id=" + floor(var.Count)
          var.Count = 21 // end the loop
       end if
   end for
   var.init = 1
endif

the code gets run each iteration - so we need to ensure this selection code is only run the very first time - hence the var.init bit

[zestoi]

I'm sure loopmidi works fine and that's good to know but after testing loopBe for a few hours in total i see no reason to change.

As for Midi yoke....Well it stopped responding all of a sudden after about an hour on Windows 7 which is a no no for me.
Works fine on windows xp though. I've been routing Traktor into Reaper (via rearoute) while using glovepie and midiyoke at the same time in a live enviroment every week for the past year now without a hiccup

I will keep windows 7 installed on my destop pc but I'm sticking with xp on my dj laptop........If it aint broke

true... no point in changing something that works. i've heard lots of people saying they've had issues with midiyoke on windows7 so i just went for loopMIDI right away and havent seen the need to change.

i'm sure i remember using midiyoke years and years ago though... back when i was using TRAX on my old 486 running windows 3.11 99% sure that was the name of the app i used for a virtual midi port anyway.

reaper looks very cool btw and i'm sure i'll qualify for the cheaper pricing. can the rearoute driver also be used to route traktor into ableton? or is it just to get audio into reaper?

[fbonito]

is this a glovepie bug?

the problem i was reporting isn't from midi yoke, loopmidi or other

the problem is from glovepie, it seams that when i put the pots to zero the buttons don't work, if i move the pots the buttons work...

i've tried this in two different machines with the same result, one with windows 7 64b and another with windows vista, in windows vista i tried with fergo and rejoice and there is no problem, with glovepie i have the problem

in windows 7 the only program working is glovepie, i had fergo but not i get a run-time error 380 (anyone knows what this is?)

:-(

what should i do?

thanx in advance

[zestoi]

sounds odd... what glovepie script are you using? would be worth adding a bunch of var.foo= lines to it so you can then monitor the actual values from the joypad in real time.

a bunch if lines like these - to check the values you're seeing oddities with...

var.btn1 = joystick2.button1
var.btn2 = joystick2.button2
var.joyx = joystick1.x
var.joyy = joystick1.y

just whatever you need to check the pots and buttons...

then if in the variables tab you do see the same effect then it's not down to the script.

no chance they're connected to the same thing? i.e: the pots and buttons are both controlling pov etc so one would indeed affect the other.

edit: guess my last question is bogus as you said some other apps seemed to read the data ok

edit2: i really feel the word "bogus" doesnt get used enough these days

[fbonito]

this is very strange,

i included your lines of code and it confirms, it's the same thing...

:-(

i didn't get to test in this computer, windows 7, with other software, but with windows vista even with rejoice and multiple gamepads the problem doesn't exist...