Attitude towards controllerism/digital DJs

[miyuru]

My advice to the OP would be to further challenge yourself as a digital DJ. If you're a digital DJ, how come your workflow appears to be the same as any other traditional DJ?

IMO the first step is to let Traktor do the beatmatching for you, and from there think about all the cool stuff you could be doing instead.

[DJ_Animus]

In the industrial/dance scene in NY I dont see any negativity towards us digital dj's. Ok Im lying. We have asshats who use the Itunes crossfader on shit laptops that crash everytime they "spin" What really fucking pisses me off is how they continue getting guest DJ spots even though they know that dudes setup is bullshit and it fails.

Fortunately I dont associate with those twats. The people I work for are better than that. I agree with DvlsAdvct we should be better than the traditionalists, we have the tools to do so!

My biggest problem has been keeping my mouth shut. I never knew when to shut up, I would always argue with these stupid DJ's, but lately Ive come to the realization its like arguing on the internet only with the ability to knock a motherfucker out lol.

So yeah, shut up, do your thing and rock the floor. Who cares how you do it, the crowd doesnt give a fuck.

[Lambox]

I never understood why everything has to be a competition. I used to play guitar and use boards online and it was always a huge contest to who was a bigger man and a better guitar player. That board didn't have the server capacity to handle the egos of even a few of the users.

Fortunately, DJTT doesn't seem to be like that--actually it's not at all--but rather it seems to be the entire board fighting against conventional turntablists. Not that everyone (or anyone for that matter) is in a fight per se with other boards, but it seems that if there was a forum for DJ-ing in general, and DJTT was a user, we'd be subjected to massive amounts of flaming and record lows of respect. (If that was confusing pretend you didn't read it... sorry).

What I'm trying to say is this: aren't these boards, and musician communities in general supposed to be places where people can learn from eachother and share new ideas and tips? Why does your music, your gear, and your technique have to be an extension of your penis?

It's frustrating. I don't do what I do because I want to look like a better person. I don't puff out my chest when I make music and share it...

[djcelebrityt@hotmail.com]

Also remeber when cds came out a lot of vinyl djs use to leave records on decks cued up to make it look like the were playing vinyl also there was a time when even cds were considered not djing change is often hard for some people digital is the future no matter what anyone says we have clubs in london that do not even have cd players strickly laptop and what about ipods

[Mudo]

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It could be these learning places but marketing and corps insist on make us fight for better performance creating "false Statments" like neccessity of HID/closed solutions an so on...

This kind of "lies" (or missunderstandings if you prefer) are flames itself in the eyes of freedom to choice derivated of the non adaptability from corps to understand people far away from its "sheep" concept. The worst is when "sheeps" become "keeper dogs" of this status quo.

Look at monome/apc40 comparision.

But people loves be lazy or fight for first place.

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[Karlos Santos]

Hmm not sure its realistic to compare Akai with Monome.
Monome are all lovely "knit your own yoghurt" hippies. Akai are a huge tech company.
Monome are a very small company but they do very well from their products !!!

Id be happy knocking out a few 100 machines every now and then at those prices.:eek:
And how long do you have to wait to get a Monome (or a kit).
You can buy any Akai product pretty easily .
Ultimately thats where the difference lays.

The music industry would be fucked if all companies were like Monome (as lovely as they are, dont nobody shout at me) cus hardly anyone would have the gear. And probably just the wealthy.

Just a thought.

[BentoSan]

The music industry would be fucked if all companies were like Monome (as lovely as they are, dont nobody shout at me) cus hardly anyone would have the gear. And probably just the wealthy,

Yeah i agree there.

Also i dont think Akai is going to impede on monome sales because the monomes are already made in such limited numbers that they have will still have enough people that still want a monome to keep them busy.

[Karlos Santos]

Yeah when you see that the average run is 100 units and the $500 unit sold out in 2 minutes. Thats $500,000 in 2 minutes just on one model . Theres 5 models going up to $1400 each. Thats some 'small' company then isnt it.

I mean theres no doubting their eco credibility and their great attitude to Open Source and all that but its a very nice position to be able to afford to have, if you can afford it.


Did we drift off topic here?

[BentoSan]

Yeah when you see that the average run is 100 units and the $500 unit sold out in 2 minutes. Thats $500,000

Actually $50 000 - big difference

but erm yeah.. back on topic...

[summervest]

Wow, some really good points in here. I didn't start this thread to create any battles with anyone/anything, I was more curious if other people had experienced this or felt this way.

I do try to push myself and my equipment further when possible, but I don't feel it should be a "requirement" that I go far beyond the capabilities of vinyl/CDs just because I use a digital setup. I'm the biggest proponent of the idea that it's all about rocking the crowd, no matter how you do it.