2 week wait for Rane Empath Rotary. Buy something else?

[JohnnyDrama]

Yo, late back on this post. Nice pics of classic rotaries

This badboy tickles my fancy too



@JohnnyDrama You got pics of your rane rotary set up?

I went and had another look at the 92 today... the headphone cue things a bit annoying. Cant fully pan between master and cue in headphones.

I do have to mix on headphones when the missus is in bed... thats a bit of a deal breaker. Never noticed that when using playing out cause then i just cue the track alone and use monitors.

Hmmm might be back to the empath and the two week wait.

I have a Xone 92r (not the Rane) and love it !
Understand your gripe with the cue, you can only listen to cue or cue mixed with master...but if you place the rotary @ cue only then you can toggle between cue & master by deselecting the cue button (no cue selected = master signal to headphone).

[MaxOne]

I have a Xone 92r (not the Rane) and love it !
Understand your gripe with the cue, you can only listen to cue or cue mixed with master...but if you place the rotary @ cue only then you can toggle between cue & master by deselecting the cue button (no cue selected = master signal to headphone).

Hmmm not sure i get you... Can you blend the amount of volume you hear with the cue/master then slam it over to just master? You saying you deselect the cue?

It just seemed not intuitive. No multiple cues set at the same time?

[Xonetacular]

You can cue and mix just fine in headphones on the 92. You can also select multiple channels to cue by pressing the cue buttons at the same time (it's not like a DJM where they toggle on and off, you have to hit them at the same time to cue multiple) and you have a cue/master mix knob.

[mostapha]

Urei (soundcraft)
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Urei was their own company back in the day. They were kind of epic. They also made one of the most classic (and popular) studio compressors of all time, the 1176.



They're awesome.

Anyway…Souncraft bought the rights to the 1620 and tried to make a clone that didn't sell well. Soundcraft themselves are owned by Harmon now.

I'd honestly love to have one, even though it'd mean using another mixer to run my cue signal. But there's a very good chance my next mixer is going to be an Empath Rotary. I almost bought one with my turntables and decided I didn't want to spend the money if there was a chance I'd just end up wanting an S6/V6 or DJR-400.

[chrisw]

Like besides the warm sound is there any bennifit to rotary mixing? I am just curious. i dont even own an actual mixer

[mostapha]

Warm sound has to do with the circuitry, not the faders.

The reason is that it feels smoother to turn a knob than move a fader to a lot of people…much more precise volume adjustments and harder to over-adjust and miss the level you were going for.

[MaxOne]

Like besides the warm sound is there any bennifit to rotary mixing? I am just curious. i dont even own an actual mixer

Rotary doesn't = warm sound. Just original mixers used to be rotary so it's an old skool vibe. Also the original were more handcrafted analogie mixers so had a lovely analogue sound.

Some say you can mix smoother twisting a rotary knob.

There are limitations if you like to slam a fader. Not really for turntablist...

I'm gonna have to go back and try and work out the headphone thing on the 92.

[ellgieff]

he reason is that it feels smoother to turn a knob than move a fader to a lot of people…much more precise volume adjustments and harder to over-adjust and miss the level you were going for.

Asking the experts: Are Rotary pots for faders usually on a linear curve, rather than logarithmic? Is that another reason they're preferred for certain styles of mixing?

I spent ages almost buying a relatively cheap 92R, that has since been bought by someone else. I think I'm going to kick myself for not pulling the trigger for another year or so.

[mostapha]

Also, analog doesn't always mean better.

It doesn't come up as much in DJ software (because we're all using 16-bit files anyway) but the noise floor on digital mixers (whether hardware or software) is quieter than on any of the original analog DJ mixers.

"analog warmth" usually means a combination of noise, distortion, and limited frequency response. It's a specific thing. Not a specifically good thing.

[MaxOne]

There are no perfect, available to buy mixers.

I would get the v6 if i could walk into a shop and get it it.

It's driving me mad.