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[firebr4nd]

No, you're not going to get .01% pitch resolution on the PL-1. You don't get it on a CDJ2000 either. .05% was the target pitch fader performance at +/-8%, which is what you get on most of the Pioneer CDJs.

All these numbers are nice and all, but is it a controller that you can beatmatch manually on without any hiccups?

[nem0nic]

All these numbers are nice and all, but is it a controller that you can beatmatch manually on without any hiccups?

That's going to depend entirely on you. If you can beatmix on other hardware, you'll be able to beatmix on the PL-1.

[StephanV]

@nem0nic: taking 10 bits into account would indeed make 14 bits overkill, but as this indeed is not a standard (and was never mentioned in this thread, not even in your post) I was assuming 7 bit as the other option. Not too weird a conclusion, is it?
I also never said anything about the platter, your first post was spot on about that.

But anyway, little misunderstanding on both sides, OP's got his answer so I guess all is good here.

[Timmyboy]

No, you're not going to get .01% pitch resolution on the PL-1. You don't get it on a CDJ2000 either. .05% was the target pitch fader performance at +/-8%, which is what you get on most of the Pioneer CDJs.

Thanks for the information on this, it is a topic i have wanted to discuss for a while. It is also good to hear that a 14 bit fader on the PL-1 will be good in traktor for manual beatmatching.

[Timmyboy]

I have been looking into the issuen of pitch resolution on the vci400 over the last couple of days and have found something very interesting tonight.

With the stock traktor mapping that the standard (non EGE) vci 400 comes with, the pitch fader is set to cc 18 on midi channels 3 - 6. If you also look in the user manual, the cc values it gives for the pitch faders is also cc 18 however if you try and midi learn the pitch fader in traktor you get a value of cc 50 + cc 01 on midi channels 3 - 6.

I did some testing with the pitch faders on both settings at a pitch range of 6% and found out that for the cc 18 setting you only got a pitch resolution of about 0.1% which i guess is a 7 bit midi message. For the cc 50 + cc 01 setting i found out that the pitch resolution is 0.03%. I am guessing that this is the 14bit midi that the controller is sending out over 2 midi cc values.

Seeing as the pitch resolution of a cdj 2000 is 0.02% i think this should be acceptable for manual beat matching (i am about to have a lenghty mix so we will find out!). I also tested a pitch range of 8% and this yielded a resolution of 0.04%.

What this basically means is that if you are using the stock mapping and find that the pitch resolution is not fine enough for you go into the controller editor and find the tempo fader entry. Select the midi learn button and move the relevant tempo fader till you see the cc 50 + cc 01 setting. Then you should be good to go.

Nemonic i would love to hear your views on this and whether or not you have found something similar mapping the pitch fader of the PL-1