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    Quote Originally Posted by MWagner View Post
    large numbers of people with encyclopedic knowledge of techno music who will be able to point out mistakes you didn't even know you made. .
    are you kidding man? Even at WMC 2012 there might be 1 out of 1000 that even knows about techno. I don't know too much about techno and I have been DJing 20 years.

    Some shit about Juan Atkins in Detriot and then Fedde Le Grand did something that wasn't really techno, but Juan Atkins did Cybotron - Clear which wasn't techno either.

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    You know why mobile djing seems harder? Cos its a fucking job, and a thankless one at that.

    At least slots at club gigs are fun and involve very little actual work (unless you promote as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by loverocket View Post
    are you kidding man? Even at WMC 2012 there might be 1 out of 1000 that even knows about techno. I don't know too much about techno and I have been DJing 20 years.

    Some shit about Juan Atkins in Detriot and then Fedde Le Grand did something that wasn't really techno, but Juan Atkins did Cybotron - Clear which wasn't techno either.

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    WMC is a far cry from Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliosky View Post
    You know why mobile djing seems harder? Cos its a fucking job, and a thankless one at that.

    At least slots at club gigs are fun and involve very little actual work (unless you promote as well).
    Everything is a job, and requires work. Even when I was working at the club there were a bunch of nights that I didn't want to go, and hated my 3am time slot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliosky View Post
    You know why mobile djing seems harder? Cos its a fucking job, and a thankless one at that.

    At least slots at club gigs are fun and involve very little actual work (unless you promote as well).
    This seemed fitting.

    A quote from the movie 'Meet Bill' from Aaron Eckhart

    Let me tell you something, kid. Working sucks, okay? Working sucks! And it doesn't matter if you're in a bank, a department store or a doughnut factory, because once you've been there long enough, the only thing you'll care about is when your next pay increase is, how many vacation days you've accrued and if your health insurance is gonna pay for the cholesterol medicine that keeps your heart pumping no matter how much shit you've worked through it. Then after you've gained 20 or 30 pounds because you're so fucking uptight all the time, you wake and discover you're working for your father-in-law in a position with a gratuitous title and you're totally replaceable. And not only is the new guy better at your job, but he's got a better car and better jokes and better hair! So not matter what you do, you make sure you make a lot of money doing it because it all sucks! And that is one lesson I, as your mentor, can teach you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokenasianguy View Post
    WMC is a far cry from Detroit.
    thank god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loverocket View Post
    thank god.
    Don't let that stop you from spouting nonsense that you know nothing about though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deevey View Post

    Bringing your own gear is nothing to do with it BTW and doesn't make it any harder - it doesn't exactly take a degree in sound engineering to set up a few speakers and lights (although some might disagree), it just makes things

    • More expensive to start with
    • And more "physically demanding"
    I agree with most of what you said except this. It has everything to do with it. Whether or not it requires a degree has nothing to do with it. I was comparing carrying and setting up gear vs not carrying or setting up gear. It's harder to carry and set up gear than to not carry and/or setup gear. The same as how it's harder to wash laundry by hand than throw it in a washing machine. It has nothing to do with whether or not it requires a degree.

    2. Underground or Non- Commercial Club DJ - Who is technically an "Artist" and plays exclusively in underground events / clubs / festivals.

    You don't hire an Artist to paint your walls - you hire a painter.
    ...And this. If by "DJ" you mean someone who mixes two songs together, I think it's EXTREMELY superfluous to refer to them as an artist. But I'll agree to disagree. If you're referring to someone who produces music and/or plays live then i'll concur with the usage of the term "artist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokenasianguy View Post
    If by "DJ" you mean someone who mixes two songs together, I think it's EXTREMELY superfluous to refer to them as an artist. But I'll agree to disagree. If you're referring to someone who produces music and/or plays live then i'll concur with the usage of the term "artist".
    By that I mean by someone who, yes will/can mixes (at least) 2 songs together, but also programs and mixes them up a set in an artistic manner that can not only enhance but create an atmosphere and reactions by a crowd in the manner they (the dj) desires rather than gaining a reaction by chucking next biggest tune and mixing it back-2-back with the next biggest tune. John Digweed, Roger Sanchez, Frankie Knuckles, Sasha, Chemical Bros (DJ sets) as some examples.

    It's harder to carry and set up gear than to not carry and/or setup gear. The same as how it's harder to wash laundry by hand than throw it in a washing machine. It has nothing to do with whether or not it requires a degree.
    Sorry I was referring to the amount of skill as oppose to grunt work - e.g. harder = more skill.

    But yes it'll drain your energy more setting up your own gear, sure. As mentioned though, its a career choice and pays the bills (well in many).

    Alot of good mobile DJ's do also end up getting regular residencies in commercial clubs/bars/events which would not suit the underground club DJ anyhow.

    One of the main differences I see in the underground club DJ vs Mobile DJ is the punters are more passionate about what the entire nights atmosphere is about from start to finish with songs that people don't know in advance, which takes alot of skill to pull off. Rather than "the DJ didn't play my one song I requested at a wedding".
    Last edited by deevey; 07-03-2012 at 12:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWagner View Post
    Don't let that stop you from spouting nonsense that you know nothing about though.
    that's what techno is all about.

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