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    dima338 - you're probably . but i can't afford new mac. i need my PC to my work, and i'm not only person using computer in my house. so yeah, i know macs are better to solftware like Traktor, serato or something. but there's a lot oh things i'm doing on my PC that i can't do on mac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwak12345 View Post
    Dude, relax i really like my country and i'm happy, that i can afford my dj stuff. the thing is, that if someone don't have have knowledge about PC, may have big problems. you know what i mean? when you buy a new car, only thing you have to do, is fill tank with gas, and you can ride. THAT's all. Besides, in my djshop guy witch sells me Audoi 2 was really surprised, when i told him, that the problem was wifi.
    if you are using a pc or mac and dont have knowledge of how they work, then you are liable to have big problems in general, not just with audio hardware/software. it's not even about pc as mac users suffer from their share of computer issues as well. if your dj shop guy was surprised that it was a wifi issue, then he needs to do some studying as well.

    i don't agree with your car analogy either. if all you are doing is filling it up with gas and going, then you are going to have big issues there as well. you should be getting oil changes and preventive maintenance done regularly to keep everything running properly. you are also forgetting about the whole period of time where you have to learn how to drive and get the muscle memory down and practice, and then take multiple tests to prove you probably won't kill someone every time you get in and ride. that is where you are at in your dj adventures currently - the learning how to drive phase. with anything technical, you are going to need to put your study time in and not just expect everything to work with 0 effort. besides that, there are plenty of resources for the problems you are having, including many on the ni site and forums.

    In my country, dj scene is small, 90% of djs, plays from Cdj's (800/1000), and using traktor in clubs is something completley egzotic. When you had Pioneer products, there's a lot of paces where you can fix your cdj's. But, when you have NI products, you can only count od dj forums.
    same thing is true in most of america as well. i have a rather large dj scene where i'm from and i have yet to see any local djs using traktor. in fairness i don't go out much anymore, but when i do it's pretty much all cdjs with serato.

    Ps. When i say, that i feel like a 3rd world citizen, i was thinking about my terrible english
    fair enough, but when you have an entire post complaining about how bad ni is and end it with a statement like that, it's impossible to make the connection to your language without specifically clarifying that point.

    look, like i said, i know it sucks to have these issues. trust me, i've dealt with them all myself on both macs and pcs (for days on end) but it's not really ni's fault that your computer needs the wifi turned off to work properly. they try to put up as many resources as possible and there are tons of forums with good info. the fact of the matter is, ni would love it if their gear worked perfectly on every setup imaginable. it saves them headaches and makes them more money. the reality is, creating hardware and software for a large number of varied platforms and having them work perfectly on all of them 100% of the time is just impossible. since we don't live in a blue skies world, the burden of troubleshooting lies on you in the end and most issues can be resolved with a little research, patience, and help from others who have experienced the same problems as you.
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    squidot - eh, yeah, i think you're right. but i was really mad, that's all. we are only humans, right? Sorry for that what i wrote, i shouldn't do it. Thanks for help and advices guys!

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    And, one more thing...Native instruments.....now, when everything works, i can see how wonderful you are.....so...will you marry me?



    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwak12345 View Post
    squidot - eh, yeah, i think you're right. but i was really mad, that's all. we are only humans, right? Sorry for that what i wrote, i shouldn't do it. Thanks for help and advices guys!
    i hear ya loud and clear. i've been red in the face angry at them too so i completely understand your frustrations.

    And, one more thing...Native instruments.....now, when everything works, i can see how wonderful you are.....so...will you marry me?

    Peace!
    lol, im glad you got everything worked out and running properly. sounds like you are having a lot of fun and that's the most important thing. enjoy your time in the darkside with the rest of us!
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    i started few years ago with vinyls, i was using cdj's, serato itch, but....Traktor is all what i need. it's really great software with great hardware, something for people that want something more than classic 2 decks+mixer, but tey don't want to use software like Ableton. Just like Kontrol F1 says - "Djing meet live performance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwak12345 View Post
    i started few years ago with vinyls, i was using cdj's, serato itch, but....Traktor is all what i need. it's really great software with great hardware, something for people that want something more than classic 2 decks+mixer, but tey don't want to use software like Ableton. Just like Kontrol F1 says - "Djing meet live performance".

    sounds a lot like me but i skipped over serato. i went from vinyl, then added cdjs, then onto ableton, and finally into traktor. so far it's my favorite setup that i've used and it's fired up a new passion for djing in me. even my girlfriend is learning on my vci400 and i'm having fun teaching her. plus, i love the fact that i can pretty easily hook up my turntables and cdjs (with our without timecode) if i want that type of feeling again.
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    And the remix decks is one of the greates ideas i have ever seen. i mean, that's like cue point juggling but you can do far more than before. i'm not sure, but that clips works similar to ableton, am i right?

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    and i'm jelaous of your vci 400 :< i sold mu Numark NS6 about 5 days ago. i connect him to traktor but, mappings that i found was terrible. i mena, iin itch platters were vere smooth ant they react very quickly, but in traktor.....

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    One more thing, NI send me this (maybe it can help someone with similar problems:

    NONE of these systems does fulfill the system specifications for Traktor 2.5.


    Traktor 2.5 requires Windows 7.

    All other Windows OS do not fulfill the minimum system requirements as stated there:
    http://www.native-instruments.com/en...pecifications/

    ---------------------------
    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

    Windows 7 (latest Service Pack, 32/64 Bit), 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon
    64 X2, 2 GB RAM (4 GB recommended)M

    Mac OS X 10.6 or 10.7 (latest update), Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM (4 GB recommended)

    Monitor with 1024 x 768 screen resolution, USB 2.0, 1 GB free disc space
    High-speed internet connection
    ----------------------------


    Please note that NI cant offer technical support for systems that do not fulfill
    the minimal system requirements.



    > Dell Latitude D620 (C2D 1.83 Ghz, 2 GB ram, WIN XP Service Pack 3 (i tried also
    > SP2)

    CPU too slow, wrong OS


    > IBM Thinkpad t42 (Pentium M 1.7 Ghz, 768 MB ram, WIN XP)

    to old (unsopported) CPU, & CPU too slow & wrong OS


    > Some kind of Asus Laptop : AMD sempron 2.23 Ghz, 4 GB ram, WIndows 7.

    unsupported CPU (Sempron not supported, its only a stripped down version, you
    would need at least an AMD Athlon 64 X2 if you go for AMD)



    You should though try to fix possible DPC issues, maybe you will be able to get at
    least a basic performance with one of your systems:


    Please note the following regarding latency & audio performance:

    1. Always use 44100Hz/44,1kHz as sample rate, and make sure to use the ASIO driver
    for your interface (you do this in 'preferences' -> 'audio setup', there please
    make sure to select the ASIO driver for 'audio device')

    2. use 128, 256 or 512 samples as buffer-size/latency (the set value should
    always be a multiple of 128, so if you get artifacts with 128, just set this to
    256, if you still get artifacts with 256, then set this to 512).
    You can change this in 'preferences' -> 'audio setup', there click the 'settings'
    button and then adjust the 'processing buffer'.


    If you get any audio artifacts even with 512 samples (or if the driver switches to
    'panic' mode so you get no audio at all), then you have a DPC problem:

    Please follow all tips given in the following article and especially test your PC
    with DPC Latency Checker and LatencyMon as described there as well:
    http://www.native-instruments.com/kn.../questions/847


    Please note that you need to make both tests while Traktor is running and while at
    least two decks are playing.
    You also need to know that you need to let the test run at least until the problem
    happens and also at least for 3 minutes.

    Once you found out which drivers are causing the problem, please check the file
    'drivers_list.pdf' that you'll find attached to the linked KB article.
    This file contains troubleshooting tips for all drivers that are known to possibly
    create DPC problems.

    You should also make sure to use the latest driver for your NI interface that you
    can download here, this driver is able to compensate smaller DPC issues up to 4ms:
    http://www.native-instruments.com/in...id=freeupdates

    Depending on the results you get you should increase the USB buffer size so that
    the USB Buffer is bigger then the actual DPC problem (so with a DPC issue of e.g.
    2,7 ms set the USB Buffer to 3ms).


    Best regards

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