Best way to beat match and transition from low to high BPM and vice versa

[Morior]

Dont forget you need to adjust the Tempo of the Master Deck, that will be the only one where the tempo slider wont be greyed out. And BTW I would learn to beatmatch, but if your new or if you want to do crazy stuff use sync, and dont take any notice of people telling you that they wouldent trust the auto beatgrids, with any form of dance music they will be correct over 90% of the time, just check them out before dropping them in, for most tracks you will be able to see by the waveform that they are fine.

[joemann002]

To the OP; Forget sync - it's holding you back from doing sensible mixing. This isn't paint by numbers with absolute values. 130 - to 136 isn't low to high mixing. Mixing or blending doesn't mean sync from A to B the sooner you forget the button exists the better. Sync only has 1 useful redeeming feature ;- it allows you to bring in a track that starts on a vocal without guess work - thats it.

A normal range is +- 5% even 1210's will take you to +- 8%. Between 130 to 136 all you have to do is pitch up 2.3% on the 130 track and pitch down 2 ish % on the 136 tune. Plan out you set, keep your transitions within 5% on each track and practice. <Edit> And plan to have BPM changes, lift the set up & take it down a few times - variety doesn't come with sync.

So if I leave the sync button off and say I start my set with a track on Deck A at 130bpm and while that is playing I load my next track on Deck B which is at 134 bpm I need to first get them to match bpm. So if I adjust the pitch on the Deck B and starting cueing it to get in sync with Deck A. But wouldn't the bpm on Deck B again be at around 130bpm once I'm done manually adjusting the pitch to sync with Deck A. So wouldn't it just be simpler to have hit the sync button from the get go and have it at correct bpm and syncing with Deck A?

[anteater32]

So if I leave the sync button off and say I start my set with a track on Deck A at 130bpm and while that is playing I load my next track on Deck B which is at 134 bpm I need to first get them to match bpm. So if I adjust the pitch on the Deck B and starting cueing it to get in sync with Deck A. But wouldn't the bpm on Deck B again be at around 130bpm once I'm done manually adjusting the pitch to sync with Deck A. So wouldn't it just be simpler to have hit the sync button from the get go and have it at correct bpm and syncing with Deck A?

Read it again, you are altering the pitch on both decks.

If you pitch up 2 bpm over 16 beats on the playing deck nobody knows but you. Pitching down on the cue deck will have no audio effect as you haven't brought it in yet.

Youtube might be your friend here. Do yourself a favour, put something over the sync button until you don't need it.

In my other life, I don't let Graduate Engineers do software calcs until they have proved to me they can do the calcs on a bit of paper with a calculator. Same principle.

In the immortal words of Karate Kid "wax on, wax off"

[SlvrDragon50]

I don't see why you want to alter the pitch on both decks.

4 BPM isn't that much.

Sync is definitely easier, but you should try to learn how to manually beatmatch.

[joemann002]

Read it again, you are altering the pitch on both decks.

If you pitch up 2 bpm over 16 beats on the playing deck nobody knows but you. Pitching down on the cue deck will have no audio effect as you haven't brought it in yet.

Youtube might be your friend here. Do yourself a favour, put something over the sync button until you don't need it.

In my other life, I don't let Graduate Engineers do software calcs until they have proved to me they can do the calcs on a bit of paper with a calculator. Same principle.

In the immortal words of Karate Kid "wax on, wax off"

I don't see why you want to alter the pitch on both decks.

4 BPM isn't that much.

Sync is definitely easier, but you should try to learn how to manually beatmatch.

So I was watching this YT video regarding sync and beatmatching with TP:



Should I use any of the methods here or not?

[anteater32]

I don't see why you want to alter the pitch on both decks.

4 BPM isn't that much.

Sync is definitely easier, but you should try to learn how to manually beatmatch.

It's not about 4bpm, the OP is being offered a technique that will let him or her do transitions between tracks without sync; again, read the post, 5% pitch at 136 is 6.8 bpm.

Therefore apply the logic of moving pitch on both decks and you can achieve larger bpm swings than what has ben suggested. Traktor even makes this easy for you by having a keylock facility. It's a powerful tool when you practice and learn to use it.

Am I not explaining this very well? You dont even need to be able to beat match properly since Traktor has the the phase meter.

[SlvrDragon50]

It's not about 4bpm, the OP is being offered a technique that will let him or her do transitions between tracks without sync; again, read the post, 5% pitch at 136 is 6.8 bpm.

Therefore apply the logic of moving pitch on both decks and you can achieve larger bpm swings than what has ben suggested. Traktor even makes this easy for you by having a keylock facility. It's a powerful tool when you practice and learn to use it.

Am I not explaining this very well? You dont even need to be able to beat match properly since Traktor has the the phase meter.

Yes, but I think you're confusing him. For these two tracks, they're within reasonable BPM that you don't have to change both tracks when you can easily just change one track.

[Tortango]

Echo freeze is always a safe bet if your are going from like 130bpm to 95 bpm. It can get annoying though. Its easy right after there is a small buildup to a break like "boom boom boom boom Ppsssssssssshhhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwww." Sometimes you can use the bpm increase in combination with a build up to get the crowd amped! Right before the bass drops make sure the track is playing at its correct bpm. There is no standard way to do it. Just practice and figure out what techniques sound good. Who knows maybe you'll figure something new out.

+1 to this. echo freeze is my favorite way to switch between songs that are REALLY different from one another; if you work it into a build like you were saying, the audience will be expecting a big change anyway!

[joemann002]

It's not about 4bpm, the OP is being offered a technique that will let him or her do transitions between tracks without sync; again, read the post, 5% pitch at 136 is 6.8 bpm.

Therefore apply the logic of moving pitch on both decks and you can achieve larger bpm swings than what has ben suggested. Traktor even makes this easy for you by having a keylock facility. It's a powerful tool when you practice and learn to use it.

Am I not explaining this very well? You dont even need to be able to beat match properly since Traktor has the the phase meter.

Yes, but I think you're confusing him. For these two tracks, they're within reasonable BPM that you don't have to change both tracks when you can easily just change one track.

Ya I'm sorta of getting confused now on how to go about this. Let's make this easy and simple so that I and others can follow as well. If someone can let me know which settings or buttons to engage or not to get the transition going up a few bpms of each track that would be help.

Deck A with 130 bpm track. Pitch level on controller/TP at zero. Sync is off.
Deck B with 134 bpm track. Pitch level on controller/TP at zero. Sync is off.

Do I need to change anything in Master Clock section...Master and Auto should be light up?

So I hit play on Deck A and its playing and I cue up Deck B in my headphones and get it to sync manually by adjusting the pitch level and using the jog wheel to get in sync with Deck A. So in theory when the Deck B is in sync now with Deck A then it should be matching at the same bpm now or not?

So if that is true then Deck B should be showing 130 bpm on the display now correct? So then what is the difference if I had just hit the sync button on Deck B from the get go and it too gets the track to same bpm and synced. That's where my confusion seems to be it in that whether we hit the sync button or adjust the pitch manually to sync with Deck A the bpm of deck 2 will need to be around 130 bpm.

If I'm not understanding this correctly please let me know.

[johney]

i think you want to paint by numbers too much.

pitch up the track playing very slowly. then mix in the faster track.