MIDI-controller for scratching!

[djmoonie]

This thread seems to have turned into a tit for tat over which is better, controllerism or turntablism

Every DJ has the right to select the methods and technologies that best suits them in order to deliver the performance required. Whether thats traditional vinyl decks, midi controllers, or anything inbetween.

The DJ community, is split between the purists who feel anything but vinyl is 'cheating', and the forward thinkers, who will push and adopt new ideas.

The bottom line is its individual choice, but I will leave you with one thought.

If you take dj technology and apply it to, lets say. cars. Once you had bought a car, would you never buy another one ? I mean, it does the job, it gets you from a to b. Its functional. However, the world does not stand still, and technology makes leaps forward all the time.

[mike_o]

I personally look at the "vinyl purists" as the same mindset of oldtimers who thought that scratching wasnt music, or that an electric guitar wasn't really a true guitar when it came out, the same guys who said hip hop wasnt music, there are always those who hold on to the past as if it where the future itself, its extra funny to me in the DJ world where most people (DJ's) have experienced someone slamming their craft saying that it was meaningless and not an art, now when all the old turntablists say that about controllerism and computers I just think they sound old and past their time and out of touch.

just my thoughts on those who hate on progression in art.

I LOVE VINYL!!!, but I am not trapped in it.

[Drimachus]

improving?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnA9GsB7xE

[Ciar2001]

Ex TT user here restarted but on Digital, once I have space the TT's will come back out mainly to rip my vinly and have some fun, but for mixing everything is done via my VCI and Traktor. The reason i went digital is the lack of space it requires to me that's just awesome and i am a bit of a geek at heart so just had to see how it works and it's amazing

did the Vinyl from 87 to mid 90's now digital from 09 to whenever i stop you have to move with the times but you should never forget where it came from and that's Vinyl and TT's so they always have a place regardless imho.

[illstep]

what about the scs1d? i heard theres still firmware issues, but that'll be fixed in the future i guess.



when it comes to scratching its basicly a turntable with several midi controllers on it, a motorized pitch fader and free of the issues that come along with using DVS and actual vinyl.

what do you guys think?

[greatmesk]

i say lets wait till we see some good scratching on the scs.1d, at namm 09, during the units presentation, the words dropped "scratching is actually very decent". I dont know what to think of this, but it doesnt sound too good to me. Allthough its connected through firewire and not usb, wich means more data is send back and forth between the unit and the pc.

[BradCee]

No there aren't. What James Zabiela does is not scratching.

is he still doing the thing with an efx1000 and the transform effect? good stuff
also, if that is what your refering to, he's moving a platter backwards and forwards, isn't he?

[audiomontana]

its kinda like comparing painting with photoshop hehe

I run alot of my paintings through photoshop to add dynamics, contrast, saturation, repetition, and it also makes it possible to isolate specific color gradations and make them more aesthetically pleasing for the viewer. and in addition I have unlimited reproduction control of the image. any size any shape.

Paint first then photoshop. Photoshop won't look so cheesy and lame. (realize inherant metaphor here)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...x/36a58eed.jpg


audio chopped 'shopped' and banking. cut it MAKE IT FAT make it BLAIR make it BIT make it GLYTCH make it ready to DIGITAL SCRATCH

and for spray can enthusio

http://s74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ent=serial.flv

[Afterhour Ali]

If anyone still cares, I bought a VCI-300 and will try to create a useful mapping for VCI-300 and VCI-100 together

[nem0nic]

what about the scs1d? i heard theres still firmware issues, but that'll be fixed in the future i guess.

The firmware is fine. The problem is that right now the SCS.1d is set up to work with a program that doesn't directly support it (Traktor Pro). Because we're doing a lot of behind the scenes tweaking of the data output to make Traktor "like it", performance is not as good as it CAN be.

You can see the performance that's POSSIBLE in the following videos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXyuiOdKtBs - with our development VST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek6aNuCkLIU - with VST and ScratchLive

So that's why the "scratching is actually very decent". If NI implemented the messages we need, or if we had direct support from someone else, you would see performance improve dramatically. This is why the VCI-300 and NS7 is such a compelling package with Itch - direct support.