New Mac Pro

[jamesmington]

I feel that for the price and build of the Mac Pro, it's geared towards video production. I feel that the MBP would be sufficient for DJ'ing / music production. Or grab the old Mac Pro. I can't imagine a music producer fully utilizing the new Mac Pro, that thing is going to be a beast.

[Polygon]

I haven't seen any issues noted with reliability (with the exception of cables potentially being easy to break) and latency should be negligible as its designed to be low latency .. transfer rates are almost double that of SATA6

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...hnology-3.html

I agree they should have perhaps offered a lower end version and GPU options, and they might yet. The fact is we just don't know if whats being displayed right now is the only version or the highest end version available.

I would have thought that the Majority of PRO's would be using external drive arrays or using network transfers anyhow with the internal drive being dedicated to OS duties rather than just dumb file storage.



I completely understand where you are coming from, however I think thats the game, they want to change attitudes to upgrading bits and bobs and build a machine thats SO good that 99% of user will not need to do anything other than plug in a single cable to add their external storage, Sound/graphics cards or whatever other devices are required.

I'm not saying thats right, but it is what it is - we don't know if the graphics can be changed or anything yet, if there will be upgrades available etc .. everything is just speculation.

According to the pics the cards themselves are on separate pcbs so substituting them would be just a matter of reapplying the thermal paste onto the chip surface.

Also the reason TB has much latency is because of the many converters used between devices. This is why sata is still superior in terms of fast, reliable data support.
Of course not talking about SAS, which is even better.

[makar1]

Where did you hear about Thunderbolt having much latency? I can't find anything related to that.

[deevey]

Where did you hear about Thunderbolt having much latency? I can't find anything related to that.

Also if it had so much latency wouldn't it be almost completely useless for displays ?

[Xonetacular]

It does look like a trash can


I'm sure it will perform great, though be quite expensive.

ill stick to hackintoshes

[Polygon]

Also if it had so much latency wouldn't it be almost completely useless for displays ?

Yes and no.

@makar i didn't find any figures, so you may call bs on me as you wish, the only thing i can prove to you is that a TB signal goes thru a crapload of converters, some even inside the cable connectors, before going from device to device.
As of that OS thing, i swear it really was sluggish as hell on TB.

[makar1]

You said you were using a 7200rpm drive over TB, which is obviously going to feel sluggish compared to the internal SSD. And the only negative I've seen from having tranceivers within the cable is the high price.

Did you do any benchmark tests on your drive through TB vs the same drive through SATA?

[lethal_pizzle]

transfer rates are almost double that of SATA6

Thunderbolt 2 has about 3.5 x the throughput of SATA6 - you need that to drive a 4k display.

[Polygon]

You said you were using a 7200rpm drive over TB, which is obviously going to feel sluggish compared to the internal SSD. And the only negative I've seen from having tranceivers within the cable is the high price.

Did you do any benchmark tests on your drive through TB vs the same drive through SATA?

It did not feel sluggish when compared to an ssd, it felt 1980-era 2gb hdd sluggish. I remember the load time for windows was around 5 minutes. Not the loading screen itself, but the time it took to fully load the desktop


And it was not my laptop but my cousin's.. so no, no benches atm. I'll try getting another free TB drive, because the one she had at the time was brand new (this is why she let me try installing windows on it in the first place, it's probably filled up with docs by now)

[mdcdesign]

It did not feel sluggish when compared to an ssd, it felt 1980-era 2gb hdd sluggish. I remember the load time for windows was around 5 minutes. Not the loading screen itself, but the time it took to fully load the desktop


And it was not my laptop but my cousin's.. so no, no benches atm. I'll try getting another free TB drive, because the one she had at the time was brand new (this is why she let me try installing windows on it in the first place, it's probably filled up with docs by now)

That's gotta be a bug. I'm not one to rave about Apple stuff, but Thunderbolt is actually Intel and is a fantastic technology. It's basically hotswappable external PCI-E.