Xone Or Vci

[tekki]

and thank u jesc good point

tekkii why would u prefer the xone ???

give ur point of view please
is not tha easy lol to decided

Following items have me look the other way instead of looking at a VCI-100:
1. Alternative/Indie/Underground image or original character:
the VCI is the choice of the masses. Many people claiming to be different opt for this machine. Can't figure this one out?
2. Appeal:
Don't get me wrong, how much I do like the VCI, I somehow seem to shy away from it everytime when thinking of a cool controller.
3. Necessity of Jogwheels:
In my opinion jogwheels are overrated. Don't need it, so why would I want it on my controller.
4. Size:
VCI is a huge mofo. It's as wide and long as a mixer, at only one inch or so the height of the unit is just crazy.
5. Additional software needed:
If you really want to make a difference, according to few of the foremost propagandists of the VCI, you need to have extra software installed, just to make it work properly?
COME ON! WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT?!

You need to have Bome's, MIDIox, MIDIyoke, thingamagick and whatsamacallit.

BAAAAAH HUMBUG!

And people tell me I make bad decisions, just by sticking to my BCR, where I do not need these. Really, I am LMAO!

This is what Tekki is thinking....."Hmmm, its a GIANT bcr200"

Nope, I am thinking, this is what a metal version of my BCR could look like. (If I take away half its controls )

Its Too Big!

I know that the vci is heavy, but this thing looks to bulky.

GHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! (tenfold)

VCI is wider and longer. The only thing the VCI has on a Xone:2d is its' height.

space for the mobile DJ is key, think about how many midi devices you could pack into the same space a xone mixer take up

You're thinking Xone:3d and Xone:4d dude.

Xone:2d has got a soundcard in it, so no additional unit would be needed. This would also be cutting space and weight.

Oh I forgot, some think this is a bad thing. Once again, if you're just digital DJ-ing, this is definitely not a bad feature, you do not need and I repeat do not need a cutting edge soundcard.
Most integrated options suffice.

i kno i cant wait lol but i kno is going to take at least 2 weeks untill i get it is coming from JAPAN

You just sold your soul to the devil.

[BentoSan]

You're thinking Xone:3d and Xone:4d dude.

Xone:2d has got a soundcard in it, so no additional unit would be needed. This would also be cutting space and weight.

Oh I forgot, some think this is a bad thing. Once again, if you're just digital DJ-ing, this is definitely not a bad feature, you do not need and I repeat do not need a cutting edge soundcard.
Most integrated options suffice.

No i don't have them confused...

Yeah but the Zone 1d and 2d are not really designed to be used just by their selves, though i am sure you could they wouldn't be that crash hot at all. Its when you start mounting it up with your other equipment it starts really adding up. In-built sound cards arn't really cutting on space either, once you consider the fact that each one of these units you buy your carrying around another sound-card. Ideally they are to be paired up with a mixer (in particular the Zone 92) which starts adding even more space and third soundcard. If they cut out all the analogue audio chains and took the soundcards out of the unit to get it a lot thinner, then the user just bought a a soundcard for their selves the unit would be a LOT smaller/cheaper/lighter and i might begin singing a different tune.

[TJP]

Just stumbled across this thread, and was interested in your comments. Interesting to note, the Xone 2D just won the 'Best Standalone Computer DJ Interface' and the Xone 1d won the 'Best Compact DJ Midi Controller' in the Tech Awards 2008. Are the masses and experts wrong? or am i mistaken in thinking the VCI-100 is eligible for the award?

I was set on a VCI-100, but this has got me thinking. My genre is trance/house/progressive (hard to say exactly what genre i'm into really, so many sub, sub-sub genres and many types - i listen to the gareth emery, tiesto, armin, chris lake podcasts, thats my type of music lol).

Maby the Xone 2D is more suited for me? There's no doubting the quality of Allen & Heath products.

Sorry for jumping in on the thread like this, but didn't want to open a new thread.

[JesC]

VCI-100 all the way!

[TJP]

lol, i've had some quick reply's before and some informative ones, but i think you win JesC haha. I'm not sure, you can sit a nice big mixer rite beside the xone 2D.

[tekki]

Nah, great one TJP, that's why this one is still open.

The Xone:1d and Xone:2d are great solutions if you beatgrid your music. In my opinion these would be better for you.
Better than the much loved VCI, due to the sizing and design of controls.

[TJP]

Thanks Tekki. In purchasing the Xone 2D i would be using it as a stand alone unit initially. I wonder however if the Xone 2D would be to complex to start with for myself as a beginner? Especially with its layout less familiar to a set of decks and mixer? Plus the VCI-100 has a very good support and advice on this website.

Maby the xone gear is something to be explored once i have found my feat and want more? I know that big name DJ's such as Deadmau5, Junkie XL and Richie Hawtin, to name a few of the top of my head all use xone gear. Sounds like the number one option for professional digital DJ's to me (sorry, I've probably offended everyone there with that insightful/non-insightful comment)

A what a dilemma lol. Tekki, and others, any opinion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, TJP.

[tekki]

TJP, in the end it all comes down to: what do you want/expect out of a controller.

Do you want to have control over the beatmatching itself, or do you want to let software take care of beatmatching.

If the last one is the case, than you do not need jogwheels that hard. Just go for faders and rotaries.

If you do the "straight forward", don't mean to make it sound negative if this comes across as negative, DJsets, than you could go for a Xone:1D, -2D or similar controller.

[TJP]

Ok, so starting out as a beginner, if i primarily wanted to move between tracks and align theses tracks myself (I'm assuming this is straight forward), would i be correct in saying that the VCI-100 is the better option with its two large jog wheels?

In my observation of DJ's and producers, I've noticed their are two main types in my genre of trance and house. Ones that mix from one vinyl/cd/mp3 to the next such as tiesto and paul van dyk, and others who use programs such as ableton and for example have tracks in 'pieces' and 'mash-up' tracks as they go such as sasha and daft punk. I don't know how right i am there lol, but i suppose what I'm trying to say is that i want to DJ more like tiesto and paul van dyk initially lol.

[tekki]

Nah, with straight forward I meant normal beatgriding and autosynching.
(No intricate beat/cue juggles etc etc.)

If you want to beatmatch/align the tracks yourself, you are more of a "traditional" digital dj.
In this case jogdials would be prefered.