At A New Gear Crossroad... What Set Up To Choose??

[exokinetic]

Defiantly my bad on the djm :O

Thanks for the clarification.

I just never liked the "sound" of pioneer mixers, besides how much everyone "raves" about them (all puns intended).

And I can definitely concede that even in 4 deck internal mixer mode with lots of other stuff going on it barely bridges 50% usage... of one of my processors, and traktors used abour 200-300 megs of ram.... not that much at all truthfully.

But as was said before, there is something to be said for nonexistent (controller) latency on your external mixing board, as well as the ease of expansion to other sound shaping equipment with least amount of AD/DA conversion, and the added reliability of say a pioneer efx1000, as opposed to a similar software plugin.


So really all depends on how you currently play and where you want to go with your progression.


I really don't think one is inherently better per say. And I have a fair assumption that the algorithms for mix down in the digital world will continue to get better until they surpass that of analogue. And I believe audio files will eventually catch up as storage becomes cheaper. We might see uncompressed digital files as the norm, and that would be a beautiful day indeed.


But that day is not today, and at least I feel, digital has got some catching up to do still. Witch is why I prefer a hybrid digital/analogue setup.


But I totally feel you on your side, and if that works well for you I wouldn't recommend changing it, and thanks for the constructive response

[MaxOne]

Constructive! That's how we like to do on DJTT

This is the original case of each to their own really. What ever works for you.

The amazing thing about digital djing is you can find the exact set up that gets you excited and suits your giging / home set up needs.

For me it's my VCI-100 arcade with a soundcard, for the next man it's DVS or X1s and a mixer.

I'm glad that "industry standard" is on less solid ground. Room for growth and customization

At the end of the day with digital djing, we're all one family!

*stands and salutes*

[exokinetic]

After all this debating an such...

And my buddy who owns the technics I have at my home DVS setup getting ancy... (he hasn't asked for them back... I can just feel it, lol) I decided I wanted to try just using the X1 and my mixer (DDM4000... It was brilliant to start with, and still does the job, its just old, and Ive learned a lot since I got it)

After a lot of back and forth-ing on my workflow paradigm I finally went crazy on my traktor beat-grids. Figured out exactly how they worked in concert with the track traktor grids them to, and I finally have my DnB collection gridded so tight, that I can let any two tracks sync lock, and as long as they are dropped in phrase in a sensible spot, they just work. If I spend more than a drunken thought (i know its a lot to ask for) on track selection, and then an interesting way to eq/effect that new track in.....wow.

Once I figured that out I was such a happy DJ. It actually came to me one night after spending hours on DJTT reading random stuff. And I went to bed thinking about this track I LOVED but for the life of me could not figure out why traktor didn't grid it properly, thusly, why I could never work it into a set. I was awake in bed till like 2 am when I figured it all out, lol. No shit, that is exactly how it happened. I got out of bed at 2 am, booted up my laptop, opened traktor and applied the idea i just got to the track, and I got goosebumps.


I was finally able to go to bed too...

The next day I spend the WHOLE day manually beat-griding my entire DnB library of a modest 5 gigs. And I never looked back. It actually took me three full days to get through the whole directory (damn!) And I found a lot of interesting things...


Of my entire library traktor succeeded in successfully detecting the proper BPM, and the proper 1'st beat for the track in terms of phrase alignment about 10-15% of the time. NO WONDER MIXING DnB WAS SO DAMN HARD WHEN I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE PESKY GRIDS! AHHHHH! ......lol.


Since I was a BRAND new dj, I was having difficulty finding it by ear (duh) and the MISINFORMATION I was getting visually really screwed me.

And now I have ranted far to long again in a hijacked thread...


FTW!

[Dustin V]

Hijacked thread this is I see....

Same happened here with a BCD and there started my gearwhoring . no one knows yet if it will be a free or paid upgrade yet, but i'm leaning towards the 2º option. the X1 comes with a handy alternative TSI with TPS4 and I'm sure that will be included in the new software, or you could just remap it in any way you like

Thanks thats a good point. I think I will go for the S4 and I can always get athe paid update and an X1 when I make more cash from Djing.

BTW do you use your S4 often for gigs and parties or mostly at home?

[exokinetic]

^ lol, win.

[Dustin V]

^ lol, win.

Always.

[Dustin V]

Anyone else?