pirated music

[josh@firestorm]

So it wouldn't count if you give them you info and say "come tomorrow to my place"?

im almost certain you are expected to have proof of ownership on the spot.

would you rather them come over to your place and sniff around?

[digiman08]

http://ezinearticles.com/?Mobile-DJi...ion&id=1820086


http://www.residentadvisor.net/forum-read.aspx?id=48919

[oneapemob]

Just to add to the subject, depending on the country the laws vary greatly, i can only give two examples, but they are so different that you will get the idea.
In France, if you get "caught", and they want to bust your ass, they will seize your stuff at the gig, mark for an audit for a reasonably timed period for you to get your shit together and show all the proofs you need to defend your music collection.
And the law gives you permission to go from one media to the next, "personal" copy...
In Portugal, the law clearly states (at least until two years ago ) that you have no rights whatsoever to change the "sate" of the recording, so no recording your vinyls, no transferring your cds to mp3, or burning cds with your mp3.
And more, even legally bought music is illegal to play in portugal (at least on paper, as written in THE LAW ), even if the licence states you can ( after all, unless the licence is recognized by portuguese law, its not valid ).

Wich brings me to another point, you shouldn't play cds (originals or burn`t) to an audience, because the licence that come with the medium (cd) clearly states that you have no right to do so, vinyl, and now digital legal downloaded music, are the only medium that come with a licence to play to an audience.
Annnnnnnd if we come to other legal matters, are you a declared artist/performer/dj, as in, do you know if in your country you have to be declared to play/receive a salary to perform as a dj, to an audience, because there too you have to pay taxes/the licence to do so, so on top of screwing you for illegal music, they can also add other charges to your case.

This subject is very complicated, and one can only hope to not have problems, even with a legal music collection. Research the law for your country, if you can, get legal on everything.

But it`s not because they "raid" the club/bar that they will enforce those laws, they well may be coming for something unrelated to you, like tax evasion, illicite alchool selling, perished or unpaid licences, etc...And just tell you to sod off while they go and harass the owner or whatever...

PS : What about you find an artist, you like his music, but its unreleased and on download on soundcloud for example, if he didn't set up his licences straight, you are going to have trouble proving it's legal, are you going to contact all 200 different artists that don't have a label to "please set your licences straight on creative commons or something or else i'll get bust for playing your music at club" ?

NIGHT FRAKIN MARE

[fullenglishpint]

So can we pretty much agree that in many places the law is inherently flawed? Not of course that that makes any difference to how fucked you might be if you find yourself caught on the wrong side of it.

I don't see how they can enforce this (not that I'm saying they won't). For example, I used to buy everything on iTunes until I realised how shit the quality was, but if I look in my purchase history is everything I bought there 8 years ago still listed? Fat chance.

The aim of the enforcers' game is to make people use legally bought music, but is telling them that they have to buy everything again because they lost the receipt going to help that?

[josh@firestorm]

It (the investigations) would also be very genre specific too I imagine.

I can see a hell of a lot more RnB, Hiphop, Top40, Alternative dj's being targeted as its a hell of a lot easier to check and chase up on those genre's. They are also a lot more common than EDM all around the world.

Having said that, a couple of big name Australian Hard Trance DJ's from Sydney were done in recent years, so no one (or genre) is totally safe... but some are safer than others.

I've heard stories of investigators being forum regulars of popular forums, and trawling myspace and facebook etc for info on dj's and gigs etc to compile info for raids/investigations.

[ranzerox]

They honestly shouldn't enforce something if they don't have their shit together on it. Slightly hypocritical, very bigot like. It's like backing dj's into corners. I mean if I dug for a week I might be able to produce proof on 30% of my files. But theres no possible way I could do it on call at the venue.

It would take months I can imagine for me to find all proof.

[oneapemob]

Being "legal" on all the fronts is the only answer, but it's night impossible for the big majority of dj's/artists untill you can really make a living out of it ( and if you are lucky have an agency, record label that will either help you with paperwork/do it themselves/point you in the right direction ).
In lots of places if you are not paying due taxes and everything, just playing your own work (if you produce ), even for free is still illegal, but how can you expect someone to pay something along the lines of 400 eur or 500 $ a year just to be covered for the few gigs you are going to have in a fiscal year....
Do your best, cross your finger and pray for the best !!

[bartboy]

Can anyone provide proof of this happening anywhere in the world? I am working on a final paper for my class that revolves around piracy and global economy and this is an interesting topic. I have been searching google for over an hour and have yet to come up with any newspaper post or articles on any site in any country of this happening to anyone DJ or anyone for that matter. I follow Piracy rates, crimes and trials very closely and I have never heard of this audit system in America. Does anyone have any technical information on this. Mainly if you live in say Australia who is the department overseeing these audits and/or trials. Any information would be helpful I'll even throw in a special thanks at the end of the paper.

[photojojo]

Pretty sure anything you buy from iTunes can not be played commercially.

[safefire]

Over here (Again, in Denmark), we have a system called CODA.
It's pretty clever, but pretty broken too.
Whenever an artists music receives airplay, gets played in a club, radio station or whatever, a small percentage of the income must be payed to the artist.
This is nice, as it gives the artist a nice extra income check.
However, if you DJ and play your own works along with other peoples stuff, the math gets broken.
You pay a total sum for the music played, and then the CODA people sort that back to you at some point.

More often than not, this results in paying more than you receive, or / and getting caught up in some weird tax payouts.