Controllers in the club, gettin hate

[Punktronica]

they all hate me

[Will M.D]

hahaha man i love it. were you guys mixing in sync or were you taking turns?

also what are you guys using in there for pads? Maschine? Apc40?

We we're just mixing between each other, doing say a couple of tune mix & then someone else would blend in a tune etc.

Its gotten a bit more interesting since Torq 2.0 came out.

Problem I have now is need an NIaudio8 or similar as the Conectiv & Xponent running through Asio4all just doesn't really cut it for tightness.
Can you say 1024 buffer! :eek:
*edit* I should point out thats 1024 buffer running Xponent w/ Conectiv running Torq 2.0.2 with 4 decks, external mixer, external control for 2 decks & Xponent for 2 decks. MPD24 for Snapshots & external Cuepoints.

Pads are MPD32 & MPD24

[NonChalant]

yeah the buffers would fuck with us, we couldnt use cue points to just launch our songs at the right time once they were beatmatched and the time was right. had to loop and get it locked in then take the headphones off to mix in and NOT LOOK AT THE VISUAL AID

[The Pancaker]

I dont really know what its like compared to other places in the states but i have dj'd in cuba and mexico and they ONLY use controllers down there for the most part. Even worse is they predominantly just use virtual dj straight off the laptop because they are big on video djing down south, even if they have cdj 1000's and a djm 800 they are still running it through virtual dj.

This... I see controllers on almost every club I go to... VCI's 100, or VCI 300, Numark Mixtracks, Hercules RMX, S4's, X1's, Xponents, whatever! Lot of pro dj's here are embracing technology too.
I also see all kinds of software too, from VDJ to Itch to Traktor.

[Onimode]

I also see all kinds of software too, from VDJ to Itch to Traktor.

Does Ableton fit in there? !

[beanz998]

I'm from Vancouver too. What name do you go by?

Suprised to hear that celebs wouldn't allow it. Maybe it changed. I remember Blueprint brought in a dj that was using a S4. Think it was Bart B More?

Also are you limited to gigs in Van when you say you use a controller?

First off and foremost, i am a controllerist.

Secondly, yes, i can spin DVS and CDJS. I am not just a bedroom dj overusing my sync button or only relying on my track bpm moving relative to my pitch fader as it does in itch(to 2 decimal points even) to beatmatch.

One of the things i love most about being a controlerist is showing up to a new club i havent played at yet and when doing line checks with the other djs for the night and seeing the looks on their faces as you pull a controller out of your bag and not a serato/traktor box. Almost immediately the other djs will start judging you, in their heads thinking youre not a real dj. In fact in Vancouver there are some clubs that wont even LET you use a controller through their sound systems because the sound guys freak out about signals being too hot. (this happened to a good friend of mine who opened for designer drugs at Celebrities, one of the bigger clubs in Vancouver if anyone is framiliar).

Nothing is sweeter then going on after the resident dj who has been playing the same crate for months on the club gear to a moderate crowd response and plugging in your controller and doing things with it that they have never even seen before and having what they believe to be THEIR crowd going absolutely bonkers for you. i had my ns7 (RIP NS7 2010-2011) i was using itch 1.0 which was extremely limited and had brutal fx (i ditched my fx bar almost immediately after buying it, beat fx didnt stay on beat and phaser/flange was not good sounding IMO). I would use my cue points as instruments though. remixing songs by either having melodies/basslines on my cues, or a drum single hits on my cues. and using these in combination with being able to mix flawlesslyish (depending on alcohol consumption) i would always surprise the djs who when i first walked in were looking down their nose at me.

now dont get me wrong, the reason why us controlerists get hated on in this instance is because every gigging dj has played a shitty club show or dance or whatever on the same bill as some kid who rolls in with a controller and a small group of friends and then proceeds to butcher his way through a set while even his unskilled friends notice his mistakes. but honestly, ive played shows with resident djs who are spinning cdjs or digital vinyl who DONT EVEN TOUCH THEIR DAMN PITCH FADERS.

now i dont really know what im trying to accomplish with this thread. one part of me wants to hear glory storys from other controlerists who have outperformed their dvs/cdj counterparts and another part of me wants to start a heated internet controlerist vs "traditional" dj battle.

[The Pancaker]

Does Ableton fit in there? !

Haven't seen ableton in any booth yet, though I know of some local pro dj's who use ableton bridged with traktor.

[Dj Kave]

Haven't seen ableton in any booth yet, though I know of some local pro dj's who use ableton bridged with traktor.

Would love to know how this is done! Do you know how? Is it similar to bridging ableton and SL?

[NonChalant]

I actually tried to spin an ableton set using my APC and a pirated version of ableton during a DJ competition. Didnt go so good, had to restart my computer right before going on and lost some of my did mapping and shit hit the fan while i was playing.

[NonChalant]

I'm from Vancouver too. What name do you go by?

Suprised to hear that celebs wouldn't allow it. Maybe it changed. I remember Blueprint brought in a dj that was using a S4. Think it was Bart B More?

Also are you limited to gigs in Van when you say you use a controller?

The fact that i use a controller has never stopped me from playing a gig. I have shown up to gigs though and there just hasnt been room for my controller in the dj booth and because there is another dj playing or something i cant just move the house tables out of the way. so some times i end up just using the techs or the cdjs out of ease.