Pioneer DDJ T1 vs Traktor Kontrol S4

[QUANCE]

FYI - I went with an s4. Been using it a couple weeks now - couldn't be happier

[3Fifths]

How do you feel about the fader and deck slider. As well as the EQ? I've read some reviews that volumer fader and deck fader slide is really flakey and "cheap". I've also heard the EQ sounds bad, how do you find it? How much can you kill a band for EQ mixing?

[QUANCE]

How do you feel about the fader and deck slider. As well as the EQ? I've read some reviews that volumer fader and deck fader slide is really flakey and "cheap". I've also heard the EQ sounds bad, how do you find it? How much can you kill a band for EQ mixing?

Honestly it kinda depends on a lot of factors - what are you used to? What are used to? What crowd are you catering to? Etc.

I'm not coming from much and for the style I'm doing it works really well - there are enough controllers and FX to make anything you want but if you're looking to play at bars or shows on a pioneer (like they all have) then it probably doesn't do you justice

[padi_04]

How do you feel about the fader and deck slider. As well as the EQ? I've read some reviews that volumer fader and deck fader slide is really flakey and "cheap". I've also heard the EQ sounds bad, how do you find it? How much can you kill a band for EQ mixing?

Both controllers EQ will get the same result, since they are both running Traktor's. Personally I wouldn't say S4's faders are cheap at all.

[3Fifths]

Both controllers EQ will get the same result, since they are both running Traktor's. Personally I wouldn't say S4's faders are cheap at all.

Picked up an S4 yesterday. Impressed with a few things, severely disappointed with a few others. Maybe its just how I have it setup but I find the 3 band EQ isn't that precise.

The "filter" effect seems short, even after calibration. At 1/4 of the way through travel to either left or right from 12 o clock the effect seems used up. Feels like they didn't use all the travel they could have so the effect is very rapid and not very smooth to me. Coming from pioneer DJM 400 (I think) at work, the filter effect seems alot more "drawn out" with the play on the knob, feels alot better and more effective.

My biggest qualm is probably the Gain control for each channel. Instead of your traditional knob like on the other EQ bands, this knob just turns and turns and turns, and the gain increase per turn is minimal. Most of all, since the knob has no stop there isn't a relative position. Typically when I mix at work on CDJs I leave my faders at 100% and just bring in the next track with the gain at around 10'o clock (paying attention to the levels). From there I bring the gain up to the natural 12 o'clock to match the volume with the track currently playing, or a bit higher depending on the track. Because the gain knob doubles as the effects knob, there isn't static positions, the gain addition per rotation is miniscule, and I can't mix the way I'd like to, efficiently with the inability to accurately judge my gain with relative positioning.

I'm not sure if theres a way to fix this, but so far I'm not at all pleased with that. I hadn't noticed it at the music store when I had them unbox one. It may actually be a deal breaker for me.

[padi_04]

Navigate to your mixer preferences and choose Xone as filter, I agree the default setting has way too much resonance and an odd curve.

Regarding the gains, It might not be the happiest design decision, but It's their way to work with autogain, a regular knob won't cut it. There is a mapping available on traktorbible.com that will let you modify the gain's resolution/speed, or you could map that yourself.

[hightower93]

I'm finally upgrading my old mixtrack pro to a better controller and I'm stuck between the 4trak and the s4. The price difference is not issue because i get both for for half the price.

I have asked my local music shops and one said the s4 and the other the 4 trak.

I like the long pitch faders on the 4trak, but i prefer rubber buttons and pads on the s4 over the plastic ones that the 4trak has. The jog wheels aren’t that big of a deal since i don't scratch. I'm not going to use a timecode setup, so that feature on the s4 is not a selling point. But I'm very interested in the DJTT s4 mapping and the fact that the s4 comes with the full version of traktor.

I have always looked at the s4 as the ultimate controller, but after reading up on the 4 trak i can't make up my mind.

I have looked at the ddj-t1, but it seems that the s4 and the 4 trak are better controllers.

[jimmyboy]

Do you guys think that pioneer is going to release a new ddj t1? (Maybe a ddj-t2)

I am stuck between the Ddj-SX and the ddj t1+ Traktor f1. I am already used to traktor, so I prefer to continue working with it. However the Ddj-Sx looks amazing.

Would you suggest to take the ddj t1+Traktor f1 or better the Ddj-Sx. Or wait maybe for a ddj t2, which will probably have a sample deck. I don´t think that a Ddj-Sx for traktor(=ddj-tx) will be released in 2013.

Thank you for your help!

[DJQA]

I don't see how the T1 would be a contender when the 4Trak exists. Now a possibly forthcoming SX for Traktor would be a different thing...

Edit: ok only now noticed that this was an ancient thread