Maschine Maschine Maschine... What about Mikro Maschcine?

[botstein]

It is clunky. The transport for Maschine winds up in that little midi window thing at the top of Traktor. It's kind of a PITA.

I honestly believe it would be easier to just beat match maschine to your decks...or it would be if Maschine had half-decent tempo controls on it. There's a way to hack it together with Live and another controller, but it's a huge PITA.

If you just want to play (and not use its sequencer at all), then you don't need midi sync.

If you just MIDI sync Ableton to Traktor and run Maschine as a VST, it's a very solid sync. If you're a dubstepper, be wary of 140/70, or any halftime/doubletime mixups like that.

I never play with any quantize on. If I somehow lost all rhythm, I would rather use a click track (I'm not saying people who have headphones or in-ears while playing Maschine are, but they could be,) or sequence some part that I could play in time to. Again, as someone who plays live (including acoustic instruments) as much as he DJs, I'd much rather use a click track.

[city_boy07]

I got it to work but or sum reason it sounds really clunky and off wen layerin a brat over a traktor deck!

[beisi]

IMO if you are using any kind of PC manual beat match is your only option for syncing maschine on top of traktor

internal midi clock via cable or virtual cable will drift as will processing of external midi clock

as others has mentioned you need to host maschine in a DAW and midi map the DAW transport controls starting with nudge as maschine standalone doesnt have it

best for the type of djing where you keep the master tempo the same for long periods of time, not stops or sudden phase changes

+1 the full size maschine, it is the best thing since sliced bread.

[mostapha]

Agreed.

Hosting Maschine in Live and mapping its tempo controls to some other controller works really well. That's actually the only reason I still have Live sitting around, even though I don't do it anymore.

@botstein, +1 on the click tracks. Depending on what you're doing, they're a lifesaver more than midi sync. If you can groove while listening to a click, then you're golden...though there are a LOT of people who can't.

@scooter, it drifts on OS X as well. If you're doing midi sync at all, traktor is a little bit better at following Live's tempo than the other way around (IIRC), but everything will drift.

When you get insanely complicated (like the minus shows from a few years ago), getting all the software set up together is worth it. But there's a point in the middle where it's just easier and more reliable to do it all yourself.

And FWIW, I don't think that monitoring a click is cheating. I've done it performing voice, guitar, and running stage shows. There's no reason to think that DJs are somehow special.

[Chris Macom]

Have you ever thought of just throwing loops, effects, etc into remix decks and using an F1? You wouldn't need to worry about syncing and could accomplish the same kinda thing. You can even set cues and do finger drumming.

[botstein]

Have you ever thought of just throwing loops, effects, etc into remix decks and using an F1? You wouldn't need to worry about syncing and could accomplish the same kinda thing. You can even set cues and do finger drumming.

This must be directed to the OP. Maschine and the F1/remix decks are very different in my view, and drumming is crazily different between the two.

Hosting Maschine in Live and mapping its tempo controls to some other controller works really well. That's actually the only reason I still have Live sitting around, even though I don't do it anymore.



@botstein, +1 on the click tracks. Depending on what you're doing, they're a lifesaver more than midi sync. If you can groove while listening to a click, then you're golden...though there are a LOT of people who can't.

And FWIW, I don't think that monitoring a click is cheating. I've done it performing voice, guitar, and running stage shows. There's no reason to think that DJs are somehow special.

I'd be lying if I said I had a lot of Live sets where I'm not hosting Maschine as a VST.


I find that if the audio situation is such that everybody needs in-ears anyway (loud rock concert, etc) that click tracks are the way to go. We seem to agree 100%.

[city_boy07]

Click track?? - metronome or am I being stupid?

[botstein]

Click track?? - metronome or am I being stupid?

They're not exactly the same. You aren't being stupid, though. It's a tool similar to a disembodied metronome for recording and performance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_track

[mostapha]

Click track?? - metronome or am I being stupid?

Nope.

A click track is an audio track (in a sequencer, on a desk, or sent to a summing bus of some kind) that clicks in time with something.

A metronome is an electrical or mechanical device that produces a click at a specific frequency and is used for keeping musical time.

Some DAWs get the terminology wrong, and as a result the terms are more or less interchangeable. People usually pick one or the other based on what their DAW of choice uses.

[DJ Dezyman]

With maschine mikro you can sync it to traktor but its done internal.

As the maschine mikro does not have a midi out port like its big brother but in the software it has a sync feature which can be sync'ed to traktors pro virtual output.

So yes it can be done.

Do you know where I can find this info or tutorial please I have the same problem my setup is an Asus Laptop, OS Windows 8