Slightly disappointing news about Traktor Remix Decks

[DJ Bob]

Fortunately for DJs, it might push more people towards Ableton, which is just plain better anyway.

For you maybe.... I think Traktor is far superior for DJ purposes having used both extensively.

It's also a shame that Maschine users won't be able to use the 16 pads to control the remix decks either, seems like a big opportunity missed in my opinion.

[zestoi]

For you maybe.... I think Traktor is far superior for DJ purposes having used both extensively.

It's also a shame that Maschine users won't be able to use the 16 pads to control the remix decks either, seems like a big opportunity missed in my opinion.

for straight dj'ing i don't think there's any argument that traktor is better for dynamically browsing a big track collection and chucking them in - but the remix decks weren't going to be as good as what ableton can do anyway - i was just hoping they'd be "good enough" so that i wouldn't want to use clips in ableton. i'll stick with what i've been trying the last few days then - external mixing mode in traktor feeding into ableton so i can use vst effects there and also launch clips.

[DJ Bob]

@zestoi - yes, I was referring to straight up A>B DJ'ing.
If you're doing remix deck/ableton clip type of remixing/playing live then there's probably much less to choose between the two.

[photojojo]

I'm initially just going to get one F1 I think. That still gives me 16 slots, which is double what I have now. Then I'll use the third deck as a track deck.

[zestoi]

@zestoi - yes, I was referring to straight up A>B DJ'ing.
If you're doing remix deck/ableton clip type of remixing/playing live then there's probably much less to choose between the two.

sure - that's basically what i meant. personally i wouldn't like to use ableton as a dj app - but i do want to be able to add clips of my own produced stuff, or full live remixes from my own stems and/or other stems over the top. the remix deck stuff *should* have been enough for me as opposed to synching ableton with traktor. i may still get an F1 sometime but would have preferred to be able to map something like one of my launchpads to control the remix decks.

guess we still don't know for sure tho whether this "Select Sample X in Slot Y" control *wont* be available to be midi mapped tho.

[Xonetacular]

If I wasn't so lazy I'd be taking a much closer look at Mixxx these days.

I looked, it's really not viable yet and has years to go.

[ekwipt]

I'm initially just going to get one F1 I think. That still gives me 16 slots, which is double what I have now. Then I'll use the third deck as a track deck.

Me too, I've been thinking of adding another x1 as well.

3 decks would have their own X1s and there'd be no need for hitting the Cue shift button
1 deck would be the F1 and the new Sample decks

[zestoi]

I looked, it's really not viable yet and has years to go.

i know very OT for here... but what areas in mixxx do think really *have* to be improved on. i'm thinking about seeing what i could fix/change in there - not looked at the official roadmap yet. for me it seems to use too much cpu and there's too many reports of it crashing. beatgrids are quite simple but seem to work. quantized stuff in 1.11 seems ok. total lack of effects or vst support ofc isn't good.

[Xonetacular]

Really the speed thing, it seemed laggy and the whole thing had latency including the waveforms on a pretty decent laptop. No nudge button or anything to adjust beatgrids. Library takes forever the analyze. Lack of available skins to fit pretty standard monitor resolutions. It's hard to explain but I just found using it awkward and everything had a delay.

[zestoi]

Really the speed thing, it seemed laggy and the whole thing had latency including the waveforms on a pretty decent laptop. No nudge button or anything to adjust beatgrids. Library takes forever the analyze. Lack of available skins to fit pretty standard monitor resolutions. It's hard to explain but I just found using it awkward and everything had a delay.

cool sure. i couldn't quite put my finger on what i didn't like about it. you can adjust beatgrids in 1.11 - not sure about previous. it wasn't obvious which button to press tho to do it - and moving the grids about seemed quite laggy and not very accurate. the mew multi coloured waveforms use more cpu than the old ones but do look nice. i hope more basic usability stuff is a prority but they *seem* to be more interested in new features than that. i may just have a go at messing with the code in my spare time and see what i come up with.