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    That had one Ina shop in Miami that I went to during wmc/UMF a couple years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostapha View Post
    That had one Ina shop in Miami that I went to during wmc/UMF a couple years ago.
    Yeah... doesn't help me that much
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty moose View Post
    Always the Rane MP 2016. That mixer is a rock.
    I've got one for sale with the expander pm me for a price and deatails

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    Fwiw, I used some friends's Empath (linear faders) and liked the feel of the unit, just found the monitoring a little awkward to use, I'm sure you can get used to it quickly though.
    (for reference, I'm an A&H guy, got a 42 at home, kinda like the Ecler Nuo3.0's big chunky eq knobs too for eq mixing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumtsch View Post
    Fwiw, I used some friends's Empath (linear faders) and liked the feel of the unit, just found the monitoring a little awkward to use, I'm sure you can get used to it quickly though.
    (for reference, I'm an A&H guy, got a 42 at home, kinda like the Ecler Nuo3.0's big chunky eq knobs too for eq mixing).
    Cheers mate, what do you mean monitoring was awkward? Monitoring is kind of what I have issue with the xone 92. No ability to pan between cue and master (which the empath looks like it has). Could you expand? I'd love to have a go on the empath but none of the stores near me have one on display...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxOne View Post
    Monitoring is kind of what I have issue with the xone 92. No ability to pan between cue and master
    yes it does. It's the knob above the headphone volume labeled "cue" on one side and "add mix" on the other.

    He's probably referring to the level meters…which are a bit limited on the empath. They show you everything you need, but they're definitely not as extensive as some. Whatever…get the rotary version, run your gains a bit hot, and then just don't bother turning the levels up the whole way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxOne View Post
    Monitoring is kind of what I have issue with the xone 92. No ability to pan between cue and master
    Yes it does- cue/mix knob right above the headphone volume knob. 'Mix' = Master
    Last edited by Xonetacular; 05-26-2012 at 12:15 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xonetacular View Post
    Yes it does- cue/mix knob right above the headphone volume knob. 'Mix' = Master
    Yeah but you cant pan fully to the master. Like how it works in traktor for example. With the 92, the volume of the cue stays the same, you only "add mix" of the master. And the cue is too dominant, theres no way to pan it out or low in the headphones. Not a problem when using monitors but an issue when trying to mix in headphones alone.

    Its not the same as on traktor or pioneers or even the empath by the look of it. Unless i was doing something wrong, but i'm sure i wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxOne View Post
    Yeah but you cant pan fully to the master. Like how it works in traktor for example. With the 92, the volume of the cue stays the same, you only "add mix" of the master. And the cue is too dominant, theres no way to pan it out or low in the headphones. Not a problem when using monitors but an issue when trying to mix in headphones alone.

    Its not the same as on traktor or pioneers or even the empath by the look of it. Unless i was doing something wrong, but i'm sure i wasn't.
    I mentioned this in previous post, if you like to mix on HP this is how I do it:

    Cue the channel you want to mix and put cue/master pot @ 50% (more / less, like you prefer).
    Beatmatch the track then cue & play when you want to mix...then deselect the cue.

    After deselecting the cue, you should hear the master & you can start mixing in the track (if you want to check pitch you can toggle the cue a few times before you mix in to 100% or use eq to blend)

    It's a bit different (work around) but once you get used to it you can mix in cans only.

    Ps. xone 92r doesn't have linear rotaries, the punch is in the last 25%
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama View Post
    I mentioned this in previous post, if you like to mix on HP this is how I do it:

    Cue the channel you want to mix and put cue/master pot @ 50% (more / less, like you prefer).
    Beatmatch the track then cue & play when you want to mix...then deselect the cue.

    After deselecting the cue, you should hear the master & you can start mixing in the track (if you want to check pitch you can toggle the cue a few times before you mix in to 100% or use eq to blend)

    It's a bit different (work around) but once you get used to it you can mix in cans only.
    yeah ok cheers, i get that, that is a work around and its doable of course.

    I just kind of want my next mixer to be my last, certainly for a while and i just don't want too many niggles. All mixers have quirks but I want it to do some fundamentals well.

    I got rid of the DJM800, which I actually think is a fantastic mixer and just does everything, as a tool really well. It's not missing much. The effects aren't the absolute best but i don't really use em tbh. Sound wise I actually found it to have fantastic clarity... but it does miss a certain something in the sound... just a smidgen of warmth/soul maybe? I could have just got the rotary upgrade for it tbh and that might have kept me happy.

    Most of the anti pioneer brigade I suspect have never owned the DJM800 and have probably only used battered ones it in shitty venues with meh systems but, at home with my VXTs, it was a really crystal clear sounding mixer... just a bit clinical/transparent, no real character.

    So to replace it, I want a mixer that does all the basics well but has soul... The 92 has soul for sure but, for me, it might have a couple too many quirks and not do the basics of what i need to my liking (cue thing/pre eq monitoring/send return bit odd).

    I'm thinking it's got to be the empath... I just wish I could try it out first
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