More REAL House DJ's getting kicked off the decks

[djlotus]

Also a good article right here.

[sobi]

Contracts have always protected DJ's, but this is a new issue. They were always drawn up to protect the artist financially, so that even if the promoter flakes, the artists will still get paid. This is a whole new animal though. It's never been thought that you might get there, get paid, but be asked to step aside. This is a really bad thing, but only hurts the consumer. I'm hoping these instances will cause agents to start including "must play" clauses in their artists contracts to protect the fans. Something that states the person buying the talent is responsible to make sure the talent plays for at least the time alloted, or they face a penalty fee... with certain circumstances being taken into consideration obviously.

[IznremiX]

Contracts have always protected DJ's, but this is a new issue. They were always drawn up to protect the artist financially, so that even if the promoter flakes, the artists will still get paid. This is a whole new animal though. It's never been thought that you might get there, get paid, but be asked to step aside. This is a really bad thing, but only hurts the consumer. I'm hoping these instances will cause agents to start including "must play" clauses in their artists contracts to protect the fans. Something that states the person buying the talent is responsible to make sure the talent plays for at least the time alloted, or they face a penalty fee... with certain circumstances being taken into consideration obviously.

not a bad idea. i know i would be choked if i showed up to see a dj and the promoter didn't let him play

edit: this isn't necessarily a new thing though. There have been a few instances in the past too

[aGhost]

So the breach of contract happens when they ask you to step aside, but if they pay you, you'll be fine. It sucks though. But My experience is that most legal systems won't allow a penalty fee on top of full compensation of the contract. If there's a breach of contract you either pay a penalty fee or the contract in full, my understanding is that you can't get both.

However I completely agree that the fans are the ones that have to take the club's BS because they're the ones paying the bill. Completely sucks for Farina because he is a school. I would have been pissed.

[sobi]

edit: this isn't necessarily a new thing though. There have been a few instances in the past too

not at all, but the fact that it could happen to two DJ's who are arguably legends in House within such a short time frame makes it very concerning, and could be viewed as the beginning of a trend.

I'll be the first to admit this is a bit of a reach, but lets look at the facts. Club owners aren't known for being of high moral standing, and caring about the music first. Their one and only goal (99% of the time) is to squeeze every dime they can. What the recent events tells the club owners is that they can book a DJ for his following, still get the big money spenders, and then not worry about the following that the name drew in the first place, as their fans are in the building, drinking, and not going anywhere. It basically shows them that bait and switch is an option. Obviously that can't be done every time, but once in a while, they can do it without it hurting their rep. Just look at Mansion. The Ferrer incident didn't hurt their biz during Miami Music week at all.

[Street Knowledge]

First of all let me just say that I think this sucks. Farina is a legend and this looks bad for them.

Second as someone who has a friend who is a high roller in vegas, this isnt really that surprising. I work in a nightclub where we have VIP regulars that will drop 30-80 grand every time they come in, a couple times a month, and I know that's nothing compared to Vegas. It honestly probably came down to pleasing someone like that, or upsetting a few fans. Its shitty, but clubs are in business to make money.

[oliosky]

First of all let me just say that I think this sucks. Farina is a legend and this looks bad for them.

Second as someone who has a friend who is a high roller in vegas, this isnt really that surprising. I work in a nightclub where we have VIP regulars that will drop 30-80 grand every time they come in, a couple times a month, and I know that's nothing compared to Vegas. It honestly probably came down to pleasing someone like that, or upsetting a few fans. Its shitty, but clubs are in business to make money.

I'm happy for clubs in Vegas to make money off of rich and not so rich wannabe's. Its been Vegas clubs MO for years. Just book your DJs appropriately and don't fuck with the real legends that created the scene you now exploit. Just keep booking Avicii and other horrible acts that the bottle service, fake tit and supplement crew love, and quit trying to get some sort of "underground" vibe by fucking over the likes of Farina and the proper house music guys.

[tombruton69]

if you pay to go see an artist and they dont play, tell them you want your money back, if people did that clubs wouldnt fuck about. just make sure you got some muscle behind you. or you could just follow the manager to his car than engrave into his car next time you book an artist i paid to see let him play C**t

[IznremiX]

not at all, but the fact that it could happen to two DJ's who are arguably legends in House within such a short time frame makes it very concerning, and could be viewed as the beginning of a trend.

I'll be the first to admit this is a bit of a reach, but lets look at the facts. Club owners aren't known for being of high moral standing, and caring about the music first. Their one and only goal (99% of the time) is to squeeze every dime they can. What the recent events tells the club owners is that they can book a DJ for his following, still get the big money spenders, and then not worry about the following that the name drew in the first place, as their fans are in the building, drinking, and not going anywhere. It basically shows them that bait and switch is an option. Obviously that can't be done every time, but once in a while, they can do it without it hurting their rep. Just look at Mansion. The Ferrer incident didn't hurt their biz during Miami Music week at all.

interesting, I didn't look at it that way

[Street Knowledge]

I'm happy for clubs in Vegas to make money off of rich and not so rich wannabe's. Its been Vegas clubs MO for years. Just book your DJs appropriately and don't fuck with the real legends that created the scene you now exploit. Just keep booking Avicii and other horrible acts that the bottle service, fake tit and supplement crew love, and quit trying to get some sort of "underground" vibe by fucking over the likes of Farina and the proper house music guys.

I agree 100%