NEW Windows Tablet

[Jack Bastard]

You are the one coming off as a fanboi dude, and what platforms are you even talking about LOL, you seem to just be flaming everybody for the sake of it ....time of the month maybe ?

Who could I possibly be a fanboi for? You're the one making shit up about things, just stop spreading FUD, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Ipad/galaxy etc... are designed as a tablets to be held in your hand during use OR be used with the designed keyboard for occasions where you might want to type something lengthily. The surface tablet on the other hand appears to be designed for (wait for it)..... a surface.

And there you go again!

What are you basing that on? As far as I can see the keyboard use is optional, it'll behave just like a tablet.

Other manufacturers DO on occasions do this - HP used to do it at one point, I believe Dell did as well.

And there's the hat trick of bollocks. Good man When did they do this? It's just that I'm actually HP and Dell qualified for hardware as part of my job and in my 15 years in the industry I've never known it to be true. So please enlighten me or just stop making things up.

[JamesN]

Wanna get away?

[JesC]

what I was refering to is, when I walk into a brick and motar ie Best Buy, Target or game store. If I want to purchase a XBOX HD, the only ones they sell are the MS branded ones. I know that you can stick just about any HD but MS doesnt like that and you run the RISK of getting ur xbox getting banned from Live. Heck this is coming from someone that owns 3 Xboxs & 2 PS3s.

If I want to upgrade my PS3 HD, I just pop a sata HD in it and call it a day. My point was that the majority of the accessories with that MS tablet are going to be MS branded. And the 3rd party stuff is going to be 2nd or 3rd tier quality. Look at the after market remotes for the xbox. Im not a apple or MS fanboi, Im a tech fanboi of things that work and Im willing to try any software and hardware out.

Back on topic, Ill be sure to goto the MS store to give this bad boy a run. if it works great. I might just pick it up to run SSL for me.

[attila]

The Pro version will be mine. Hell I can get a smaller dj bag now. All I need is a Surface and an S2.

[JesC]

The Pro version will be mine. Hell I can get a smaller dj bag now. All I need is a Surface and an S2.

Picture the surface with Traktor, Serato, Ableton & Recordbox loaded on the tablet. You get to the club and 1 USB cable to hook up either to the pioneer mixer or Rane mixer and your ready to go.

[attila]

It's almost too ideal to be this close to happening haha

This is seriously THE device I've been waiting for. Beyond being able to produce in Ableton out of the house, just experimenting with my softsynths anywhere will be invaluable (especially if I can tweak all the knobs through touch!!!)

[synthet1c]

If it could run any windows program the hardware would cost $1500 - $2000, Imo it will follow apples closed app store model to generate money, although with the power of an i7 4gb ram there is nothing stopping the big boys from making their programs operate on it.

[attila]

The Pro model has an i5 and just runs a regular desktop OS. Also said the Pro model will cost around the same as ultrabooks, so it's safe to assume it'll be 750-1000.

[Jack Bastard]

what I was refering to is, when I walk into a brick and motar ie Best Buy, Target or game store. If I want to purchase a XBOX HD, the only ones they sell are the MS branded ones. I know that you can stick just about any HD but MS doesnt like that and you run the RISK of getting ur xbox getting banned from Live.

You're missing the point, this is a software thing, not a hardware thing. MS doesn't care about the brand of HD in your machine, if they did they could easily do as Apple have done and developed a custom HD firmware and/or proprietary connector and easily banned people from Live that way. The thing they want to stop is people filling their HDs with copies of games and running them from there as happened with the previous xbox. All console manufacturers make a loss on the hardware (apart from maybe Nintendo), the software is where the money is and that is the focus of their bans on live.

What you're describing is an anti-software piracy measure, not a hardware lock-in.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about xbox remotes, there are some high quality 3rd party ones and some cheap shitty ones, just like 3rd party add-ons for any other console or computer you care to mention.

[DJSigma]

If it could run any windows program the hardware would cost $1500 - $2000, Imo it will follow apples closed app store model to generate money, although with the power of an i7 4gb ram there is nothing stopping the big boys from making their programs operate on it.

There's 2 models. One runs Windows RT which is a more locked down version of Windows 8 designed to run on ARM-based tablets. That will only run software from the Windows Store and is basically an MS equivalent of an iPad, but with standard ports and the keyboard cover. The other model is x86-based and runs the full version of Windows 8, so you can run any software that will run on Windows.

The Fact is - we don't have any real-world facts yet to base anything technical on (like how well traktor or serato will run, or IF they will even run).

If they will run on Windows 8, they will run on the Pro version of the Surface. If you have a regular laptop with Windows 8 on it, the only difference between that and the Surface Pro is the form factor/keyboard. The architecture is the same.