Can someone suggest me an amp for these? - Page 4
Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 43
  1. #31
    Tech Guru Polygon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A salt mine in Michigan
    Posts
    1,272

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by makar1 View Post
    No, the iNuke 3000 will not cut it for those speakers.

    Go for the iNuke 6000, QSC GX7, or similar.
    After some thinking i changed my mind and agree with you, really thought the 3000 was enough :P Still, qscs are heavy...
    Quote Originally Posted by donstone View Post
    I only use VINYL flooring. Rugs are for cheaters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    If you can't find an Abba song that you like, you are a liar of the highest order.

  2. #32
    Tech Guru Polygon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A salt mine in Michigan
    Posts
    1,272

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by grandlethal View Post
    So they will have a lotta bass?

    Ack, I'm trying to learn all this speaker stuff, but there is just so much I don't know/understand.

    It's like I have this money (I'm willing to drop like 1200 maximum), and I want a badass set-up, that will be at least moderately portable, and not a massive bitch to set up.





    So.... Both Jbls that require 500watts @ 4ohms require a 6000 watt amp? Is the 500 watts @ 4 ohms describing what the minimum is? Or what you'd need to push em as far as they can safely go.

    Because that's what I'm looking for, I feel like if I'm going to invest in some speakers I at least want the ability to push them to their potential even if it's not always needed (I know all you guys would agree it feels awesome to have all that power)
    1) yeah, usually these 2 way 15" designs are great for houseparties and such, just remember to keep them on the floor, since bass is most powerful on when near a surface, in this case, the ground.

    2) Ohms and watts are units of respectively resistance to load and power. To put it easily: the less ohms the speaker has, the less watts needed for the amp to make it go loud. Or like this: if an amp puts out 1000watts per channel when connected to an 8ohm speaker, it will put out 2000 watts when connected to a 4ohm speaker, 4000 watts to a 2ohm speaker and so on. Lower ohmage speakers that retain sound quality without distortion are difficult to make (a lot of technical mumbojumbo here, not going to explain it all), but take in more power and are louder in SPL.

    Now, the jbl's are rated at 500 continuous. This means that they can take a continuous sine wave at, say, 100hz, at 500w output, without damage. 1000 peak means that they can take 1000 watts but for short amounts of time, say, kick drums. A sine wave at 1000w will probably blow the speakers in less then a minute.
    The behringer has a rating of 3000wpc PEAK, this means they can't amplify a signal to 3000watts power for more than very short amounts of time. Continuous power you're looking at about 600 watts, which is right there with the speakers.
    With amps you need headroom. This means that you should use an amp that is more powerful than the speakers it's driving. Since 600wpc really is there, you might get into amp clipping (google that up if you're interested).
    So, as many up there said, get the 6000
    Quote Originally Posted by donstone View Post
    I only use VINYL flooring. Rugs are for cheaters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    If you can't find an Abba song that you like, you are a liar of the highest order.

  3. #33

    Default

    So 6000 it is...

    But before i commit, would it really make more sense to not buy these sort of "all-in-one" floor speakers and go for the individual pieces?

    I really want bass the most, but I don't want to sacrifice sound quality just for more "loudness", but would I get more bang for my buck buying something less... put together for me?

  4. #34
    Tech Guru Polygon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A salt mine in Michigan
    Posts
    1,272

    Default

    Waot, do you mean like active speakers? Actives are a good choice since thrir amps are calibated to the power rating if the speaker. But they're expensive... You could get a pair of 15 tops and a pair of 15 subs for a little more than what the jbl's cost. But then you'd have 4 pieces+mounting poles+4speakon cables+4x power cables with extensions +mixer...... While with the jbl's +amp you'd have 2 boxes, 1 power cable, and one pair of interconnects.
    Active dual 15's are bloody expensive, too.
    Your choice
    Quote Originally Posted by donstone View Post
    I only use VINYL flooring. Rugs are for cheaters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    If you can't find an Abba song that you like, you are a liar of the highest order.

  5. #35
    Tech Guru
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    York, UK
    Posts
    3,419

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    After some thinking i changed my mind and agree with you, really thought the 3000 was enough :P Still, qscs are heavy...
    The QSC GX7 is not heavy. 7kgs vs. the 5.5kgs of the iNuke.
    VCM100 / X1 / DJM250 / DJM900 / CDJ2000s / Maschine / Audio2+4 / 2i4 / HS8s / TSP 2.6.8
    Macbook Air i7-3667U+8GB 10.9 / Win7x64 i5-3570k+24GB


  6. #36

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    Waot, do you mean like active speakers? Actives are a good choice since thrir amps are calibated to the power rating if the speaker. But they're expensive... You could get a pair of 15 tops and a pair of 15 subs for a little more than what the jbl's cost. But then you'd have 4 pieces+mounting poles+4speakon cables+4x power cables with extensions +mixer...... While with the jbl's +amp you'd have 2 boxes, 1 power cable, and one pair of interconnects.
    Active dual 15's are bloody expensive, too.
    Your choice
    Like how soomeone suggested earlier in this thread, that I'd be better off getting a sub and all that crossover stuff. Not that I understand it much, but would I get a better bang for my buck?

    It's mostly cause I would be dropping 1200$ on these JBLs and the fact that someone says "don't expect much bass", out of my 1200$, I'm a bit... reluctant now hahaha.

  7. #37
    Tech Wizard
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    69

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by grandlethal View Post
    Hm, yeah I don't know a lot about speakers, just people keep suggesting those two. And are you sure? two dual 15" subs are, well just that and I can't imagine they'd be crumby.

    What would you suggest? I can't imagine trying to plan out my own sub and all the other speakers stuff to combine to create a good sound system.

    And also guys, I'm still a bit unclear haha, will the 3000 cut it or no? Everyone keeps going back and forth on that.
    JBL makes excellent speakers and I am sure these will sound good however there are other things to consider.

    1. Are you going to be moving these speakers around from place to place? If so you are asking to have a bad time every time you have to setup. I have EV eliminator cabs with a single 15" and they are way to big in hindsight. This is a VERY important thing to consider. Don't buy something unless you see them in person and try picking them up. Then imagine loading and unloading them in your vehicle.

    2. The F3 of those speakers is 50hz. Now that sounds good but the truth is that is where they fall like a rock. They are setup like a 2.5way speaker wich will give you low end but it will not be on the same level as a decent sub. If you are playing bass heavy music (dubstep, DnB) then you are going to want a sub at some point. You can always add one later no matter what you get but a sub/sat setup is much easier to move around.

  8. #38
    Tech Guru jakeintox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    814

    Default

    I'v sen a dj with those cabs, base sounded pretty good... Is there a guitar center near you? Go try some out.

    You could always start with those and add a sub later on if you need it.

    Intoxicated /adj./ When you feel sophisticated without being able to pronounce it.

    facebook.com/DJJakeLake
    jakelake.info

  9. #39

    Default

    get the NU6000 DSP. a DSP is a an amazing tool.

  10. #40
    Tech Guru Polygon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    A salt mine in Michigan
    Posts
    1,272

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jakeintox View Post
    I'v sen a dj with those cabs, base sounded pretty good... Is there a guitar center near you? Go try some out.

    You could always start with those and add a sub later on if you need it.
    This. You can always xover the cabs if you ever get some subs
    Quote Originally Posted by donstone View Post
    I only use VINYL flooring. Rugs are for cheaters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Patch View Post
    If you can't find an Abba song that you like, you are a liar of the highest order.

Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •