Tiesto's Hakkasan residency, is this the end of Ibiza?

[KS2]

Yes, i've been to ibiza and not just once.
And while many people know what good music is, and realize those "big name" dj's are nothing but commercial stunts, many people still swear by guetta and the such. Don't ask me why, but there's a reason why these guys always fill up stadiums. Because they have a name.

And even tho i know this is reeeeally far fetched, i still think there's a small possibility for vegas to become the next ibiza. Call me crazy...

So you must realise Ibiza isn't about those DJs? I'm amazed someone who has been thinks it couldn't exist without them. What about all the clubs being full to the brim of people on the nights where non-commercial stuff is being played? If it means less of the kind of people who come for the West End as if it's Zante or Malia then go and see the only 'big' DJs they've heard of, then it can only be a good thing. Or those who only go to sit on daybeds with their bottle of Grey Goose.

Vegas is nothing like Ibiza. I love Vegas, don't get me wrong, but it's not about music. It's also a lot faker than Ibiza. It's all about the bottle service crowd. Ibiza grew naturally and you still feel that today. Everything Vegas does, at least as far as the tourist industry goes, is forced.

[Nicky H]

Ibiza is much more commercial now than it used to be but KS2 is right, the vibe is still there in certain places.

Vegas may become a big place to visit for 'EDM' fans but Ibiza will always be Ibiza.

[KS2]

Yeah, it definitely is more commercial, specially with all these bars like Ocean Beach Club opening up.
It's all about Sankeys this year! (and dc10, obviously)

[Polygon]

So you must realise Ibiza isn't about those DJs? I'm amazed someone who has been thinks it couldn't exist without them. What about all the clubs being full to the brim of people on the nights where non-commercial stuff is being played? If it means less of the kind of people who come for the West End as if it's Zante or Malia then go and see the only 'big' DJs they've heard of, then it can only be a good thing. Or those who only go to sit on daybeds with their bottle of Grey Goose.

Vegas is nothing like Ibiza. I love Vegas, don't get me wrong, but it's not about music. It's also a lot faker than Ibiza. It's all about the bottle service crowd. Ibiza grew naturally and you still feel that today. Everything Vegas does, at least as far as the tourist industry goes, is forced.

Of course it's fake and it's forced, and it sucks, and no, i really wouldn't want vegas replacing ibiza anytime.I utterly love ibiza and its atmosphere.
I agree with everything you said above. But i didn't say ibiza can't exist without those dj's.
Just think about how forced vegas was with casinos, why wouldn't they try to do it again with music?

[V-Hoff]

Brazilian Psytrance scene is so much better and so much more underground

[mdcdesign]

This? really?

Yes

[KS2]

Of course it's fake and it's forced, and it sucks, and no, i really wouldn't want vegas replacing ibiza anytime.I utterly love ibiza and its atmosphere.
I agree with everything you said above. But i didn't say ibiza can't exist without those dj's.
Just think about how forced vegas was with casinos, why wouldn't they try to do it again with music?

Yeah but you implied that those DJs are the only known ones on the island, when in reality the real scene is still thriving.
I've heard people say Ibiza isn't the same as it used to be for different reasons, but when you look at what's going on at the moment there's nothing to complain about. From Steve Lawler and the Viva Warriors crew moving to Sankeys so they could play the music they want despite the pay cut, to the Enter nights, to DC10, to Cocoon and all the smaller stuff going on like Departure etc. Then you've got the new club, Bomba, bringing Circus to Ibiza and some other nights. And this on top of the other stuff I've already mentioned!

Vegas wasn't forced with casinos, that was natural too. But these days the whole thing in general is quite forced. It's an amazing place though, don't get me wrong. You can't complain at lots of people in one place having fun.

If anywhere is up and coming though, it's Croatia. But that's mostly festivals rather than day in day out, centralised partying.

[Polygon]

Yeah but you implied that those DJs are the only known ones on the island, when in reality the real scene is still thriving.
I've heard people say Ibiza isn't the same as it used to be for different reasons, but when you look at what's going on at the moment there's nothing to complain about. From Steve Lawler and the Viva Warriors crew moving to Sankeys so they could play the music they want despite the pay cut, to the Enter nights, to DC10, to Cocoon and all the smaller stuff going on like Departure etc. Then you've got the new club, Bomba, bringing Circus to Ibiza and some other nights. And this on top of the other stuff I've already mentioned!

Vegas wasn't forced with casinos, that was natural too. But these days the whole thing in general is quite forced. It's an amazing place though, don't get me wrong. You can't complain at lots of people in one place having fun.

If anywhere is up and coming though, it's Croatia. But that's mostly festivals rather than day in day out, centralised partying.

Ok i give up, you win :P

I don't see croatia getting bigger than it already is though ,since croatians don't do anything to promote any kind of tourism, even tho they have amongst the most beautiful coasts on earth.
Ultra is cool and everything, but crime in split is a major problem for example..

[Polygon]

Yes

butterface! :P

[KS2]

Ok i give up, you win :P

I don't see croatia getting bigger than it already is though ,since croatians don't do anything to promote any kind of tourism, even tho they have amongst the most beautiful coasts on earth.
Ultra is cool and everything, but crime in split is a major problem for example..

Aha I wasn't trying to win! Come to Ibiza this summer and see how glorious it is without those DJs!