My Outlandish ,speculations on what Traktor Hardware Native Instruments will put out.

[Polygon]

AFAIK the relationship between Pio and NI is less than cosy.

Probably, seeing how much the community wanted 350 and 850 hid implementation, and no progress has been made in that direction.

[Karlos Santos]

Okay I'll be the one to say it, does anyone else tire of the absolutely insane NI ass-kissing done by and encouraged by some of the mods? Other people do it as well, but I have to point out that the mods have specifically sated that they have to encourage this sort of thing for DJTT's business plan. Can we at least get better at calling them out on it, guys?

The bullocks being spewed by karlos santos right now is fucking world-class.

I was fully expecting this from you.

First off, I am not in the pay of NI or DJTT. You're post is the same bile I have heard before and it is boring.

I am the one criticising NI on their own forum when I don't agree with them.

When has a Mod ever stated that they encourage anything for DJTT business...??? Point this out to me or do not make such ridiculous statements again. I could care less about DJTT's bank balance. I am here cus I like the forum and some of the people. You are spouting typical bile. I've heard it all before (apart from the DJTT business plan).

The problem with people like you is that you have selective hearing/reading. You pay no attention when I or anyone else agrees on a point where NI have boobed. All you do is pick point at when I or anyone else legitimately and objectively praises them.

Its soooooo boring.

I tell you what we can get better at calling out. People like you that attack, attack, attack and cannot enter into discussion without being either aggressive, obnoxious or personal.

Now, I know you like to come off all bitchin' on the forum but this time you have overstepped the mark...

If you ever accuse me of what you have in the post above without proving it I will shut you down. Simple as that.

[Karlos Santos]

More damn condition slots!

+1

[Polygon]

If you ever accuse me of what you have in the post above without proving it I will shut you down. Simple as that.

I don't want to interfere, but don't you think you're taking it a bit too far?

Let's all chill and contribute to the thread in a positive way, mmkay?

[makar1]

Probably, seeing how much the community wanted 350 and 850 hid implementation, and no progress has been made in that direction.

Like with the DB2/4, the fact that they're non-existant in clubs means there's little incentive to support them.

[Polygon]

Like with the DB2/4, the fact that they're non-existant in clubs means there's little incentive to support them.

Still, the xones are not based on an industry standard design. It would have been, you know, nice, if NI thought about the countless bedroom djs who have these players at home.

[makar1]

As suggested earlier, NI are really pushing the bedroom DJs to buy all the NI gear with all the software restrictions they place on other hardware. The lack of integration with CDJs is just the same as the restriction on MIDI jog wheels, Remix Decks, and Timecode.

[haze324]

I've had an S4 and surely it can take "some" beating and there is a tradeoff between price and build quality. I had my S4 pre-purchased from DJTT and sent to me in Iraq of all places. It took a beating getting to me, and it worked under some crappy conditions and I didn't have a case for it. However, I would not say it's in the same build quality of a DJM-800 or a Rane 57 which are used night after night by numerous DJ's who care less about the house equipment. If it's your personal S4, you are going to treat it better than the house mixer.

[Karlos Santos]

I don't want to interfere, but don't you think you're taking it a bit too far?

What, do you think that I should simply take my reputation as a Moderator so lightly that I should allow someone to accuse me of being so partisan that I am giving advice in order to sell product? Really?

I don't think you understand the importance some Mods put on their roles and how much we (I certainly) strive to be seen as impartial.
It is VERY important to me because my rep as an impartial mod has enabled me to be involved with various companies on their products. I don't think people send me stuff to test and review to get a sycophantic reply. They do it because they know I will tell them what I think.

I am a fan of Traktor which is why I am involved with NI but I am not in their pay, I am not a fan of NI, just Traktor.

So no, I don't think I am taking it too far.

That was a personal attack on me and my reputation and I stand by what I said.

[haze324]

^ We all know deep down Karlos hearts Itch