Unlocking the Maschine Studio Screens

[Karlos Santos]

Ah yeah I remember the DB4/2 thread. Dunno what the deal was with that although my personal opinion is that a website that sells a product should not promote methods to hack it (and by that I don't mean improve it as was the case with later VCI100 FW versions that were not officially approved by Vestax if i recall correctly). The thing with that DB4 hack was that it enabled people to use timecode without the required hardware. Not such a terrible thing in it's self BUT... the natural affect would be that people would also be able to grab a torrented version of Traktor, hack it and have a full Traktor Scratch Pro setup for free other than paying for a crappy soundcard and timecode thus cheating NI out of revenue for software and hardware.
I think getting under the hood of hardware is different because you have to own it first. Cracking/hacking software generally means getting it for free, illegally.

Personally I would find it hypocritical if DJTT condoned such software hacking practices being that it has a revenue stream from selling NI products.

Probably not a popular view but there you go. I guess I'm playing devils advocate.

I'm pretty sure that if SSL was cracked and you could use any old soundcard with it the whole world would erupt in anger...

[jdownesbaird]

I hear you, but I just don't agree that "hacking" the software to work with a non-certified mixer has anything to do with piracy. I bet most people that did that hack were legit buyers of Traktor who just wanted their expensive, capable mixer to work with Scratch Pro. Torrents are widely available for lots of software, and that's a choice that some people make. But, I think some people justified this particular hack because they didn't feel like they had any other reasonable option (other than buying an expensive and redundant soundcard that their DB4/2 already had). I'm not saying that this is ethically right, but it's certainly not an entirely unreasonable justification.

Anyway, sorry for getting off topic. I hope NI does release a Traktor product soon with those badass screens. I can't imagine they won't sooner or later.

[makar1]

Refusing to buy an expensive sound card isn't any different to refusing to pay for software. Serato and VDJ both charge $300+ for DVS, so I doubt it was ever NI's intention to give out a full DVS setup for $120.

[Karlos Santos]

This current 'hacking' subject always ends badly. Let's get this back on topic guys.

[031999]

1. We are using Paid for versions of traktor to do this. haha I have like 3 copies from all the soundcards I bought

2. Progress as been slow, because I guess there is someone on this forum, from NI.
we were contacted by NI, but not with a Cease and Desist.

Their letter only stated that while what we are doing is not an ABSOULTE breach of the EULA, that any project like this is only to be used for personal use, and that releasing any info to the community on how to "reverse engineer any hardware or software", would be a breach of the EULA.

I have no desire to fight with NI, but we are obtaining legal advice at the moment on how to proceed.

[Karlos Santos]

I guess there is someone on this forum, from NI.

Just for clarity and to avoid any confusion or suspicion, DJTT is one of the worlds biggest dj communities if not the biggest regarding DJ technology. It would be naive of anyone to assume that Native Instruments do not pour over these pages.

They don't have someone "on this forum" in the way that that statement 'could' be construed.

[031999]

Just for clarity and to avoid any confusion or suspicion, DJTT is one of the worlds biggest dj communities if not the biggest regarding DJ technology. It would be naive of anyone to assume that Native Instruments do not pour over these pages.

They don't have someone "on this forum" in the way that that statement 'could' be construed.

Very true! Karlos. I never assumed NI was spying on anyone. I know that most of the people that work there are musicians or djs also.

So I would expect them to be hanging out here. Would I like NI to offer me a job......um hell yeah hahaha

[alecman]

Hey guys, I am a coder and am currently getting myself into hacking the mk2 screens; I might not be the first one to do this but I see this as a cool thing to achieve without using external hardware (interrupting the USB communication will be a pain tho). I am pretty sure the Studio's mechanism regarding this won't be too different from the one for the mk1/2 (except the huge amount of data coming in for the different colours and the way bigger screen size, of course). If anyone here who's still interested is Berlin based, owns a MStudio (I don't) and, even better, has a basic understand of coding, I'd love to get my hands on this.

[031999]

lol, we tried it, we got something goin. I got distracted with playing more out of state gigs, and the project kind of fell by the wayside. Minor interference from NI kinda just put the whole thing on the back burner.

[alecman]

how far did you guys get?